http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/father-kills-300-pound-bear-with-log/20070622182209990001
HELEN, Ga. (June 22) – A 300-pound black bear raided a family’s campsite, and the father saved his sons from harm by throwing a log at the beast, killing it with a single blow. Chris Everhart and his three sons were camping in the Chattahoochee National Forest in northern Georgia when the encounter happened Saturday. The bear took the family’s cooler and was heading back to the woods when the youngest son, 6-year-old Logan, hurled a shovel at it. The bear then dropped the cooler and started coming at the boy, said his father. Fearing what might happen next, Everhart, an ex-Marine , grabbed the closest thing he could find – a log from their stash of firewood. “(I) threw it at it and it happened to hit the bear in the head,” Everhart said. “I thought it just knocked it out but it actually ended up killing the bear.”
Wow. There’s macho and then there’s macho. I don’t know what this guy’s philosophical/religious beliefs are, but he wins the “Quien es mas macho” contest.The Villiage People and Billy Chrystal should be proud.
david samson killed a lion with the jawbone of an ass.was that evolution
or was samson a jewish redneck.
phreedm
I thought I had spelled it out pretty clearly before, but let me see if I can dumb it down for you some more.
Natural habitat (home) of bears—The WOODS
Natural habitat (home) of modern humans—NOT the woods.
Now, 1 idiot man and 3 boys from the same gene pool go to play house in a bear’s natural habitat.
The humans get upset when the BEAR has the audacity to take a stroll through its OWN HOME.
The bear says, “Hey, Mi casa su casa. I’ll just have a bite from your cooler that you left sitting out, since we’re tight now.”
But the humans freak. They throw a shovel at the bear, and the bear turns to give an etiquette lesson. At which point, the humans hit the bear in the head with a log, killing the bear.
The bear leaves three motherless cubs to fend for themselves. The idiot man is lauded as a hero for being able to save his family from his own stupidity.
And lots of people talk about it in the blogosphere, notably one who manages to liken the situation to, of all things, abortion.
High five to stilhorn for the comment about a bear growing inside a person!
Dave
I hope, by BOTH OF THEM, you mean the man and his son, and not the man and the bear. Surely you don’t think the bear should have known better.
And the point is, It takes a lazy dumbass to not follow the regs about stowing food and garbage when camping.
Yes, if I were in a situation where I needed to protect my children from a bear, I would do anything I could to save them.
But please don’t laud the guy as macho or a hero when he brought the situation upon himself. HE was the one who put his children in danger.
No, bears aren’t people, and I, as a human value a child over a bear (although there are a few I would consider feeding to the bears.) But why do we think it’s perfectly OK to kill anything that isn’t human? Sometimes, just because we feel like it. Hell, we give prizes for it. We’re just animals too. It just pisses me off when shit like this happens.
AS for your evolutionary point, I hope this dad takes away some knowledge from the experience and doesn’t repeat the mistakes of the past. Because they plan to go again, and his kids think he’s superman now. Next time, maybe they’ll just have to go to the ER to have a fishing hook removed from some sensitive area.
phreedm:
Yup. You’ve nailed it. This is precisely why most people who are pro-choice do not consider abortion murder.
Dave:
I think most people here would do the same thing as the father if their child were about to be attacked by a bear, even if they themselves were at least partly responsible for putting the child in harm’s way.
Of course the father should have done whatever he could to protect his child. And I don’t think anyone is arguing that the bear is “worth” more than the child, or that the bear has a greater right to life then the child (or at least I hope not).
But the guy did deserve the ticket for not keeping his campsite in order. The issues two are actually only tangentially related. Even if the bear never walked into camp, he still would have deserved the ticket for creating a potentially harmful environment for both humans and bears. It’s pretty obvious I think that both bears and humans are better off not interacting closely with each other. The best way to do that is to not give bears the opportunity to mooche off of people food.
Dave
The dad was lucky, very very lucky. That was all. He was also stupid and because of his stupidity a bear lost its life (and likely its cubs as well) and one or more of his children were endangered. If the pinheaded father had half a brain everyone, bears included would still be a live. What did you think about the other DUI “camper” that was trying to run down the bear with his car. That SOB should spend significant time in prison.
@phredm
Exactly! The guy shouldn’t have gotten that ticket! He should’ve been brought to the court on the charges of manslaughter, and kid should be charged with aggravated assault.
Equal rights, isn’t it, phreddy?
Dave
“1) Bears are not people. They do not have rights.”
Of course they don’t have rights. Rights are a human invention of law. But if our environment including the animals in it had the rights of just one single human being we would have had great difficulty f’ing it up so badly.
“I would toast 1000 bears for a single child’s life.”
False choice. Has nothing to do with anybodies argument.
“Note the evolution thing going on right in front of us. The quick thinking strong dad used his abilities to save his children. Now the kids live on. This is straight out of Dawkins & Darwin.”
No it is not. Once again the dad was lucky! If humans were to adopt such behavior with regards to bears then 9 times out of ten the humans would lose and the gene frequency associated with such moronic behavior would decrease.
St. Lucifer
Once again Phreedy’s foot has found his mouth.
Yes, Karen, the man and his son.
Apple — well spoken.
What, yes lucky, and I like your point about evolution — that a smarter man would not have gotten into that situation in the first place.
Dave
You are a gracious host.
Dave killing 1000 of any mammal per child would mean extinction of that mammal have you turned xtian on us. How precious is life with only human mammals left. If everyone still hunted instead of buying farm raised food a lot more would be gone as well.
Humans are precious is religious dogma. True each of us is unique. I say if a man goes into to the woods and gets eaten one less fool by natural selection. Give the bear two weeks of boot camp and let it go.
If only prayers worked you could tell god the perimeter of your camp and ask him to guard you as you slept next to your cooler.
If the bears eat us it’s His will.
@notyourdaddy:
Well, yes and no. That humans have some kind of intrinsic value over other animals, that might be religious dogma. But a person privately holding humans more valuable then other animals is just a consequence of that person being human, i.e. valuing more the membes of his own species then of others. Dave said he’d toast 1000 bears for one child’s life. Don’t you think a bear would toast 1000 humans for one bear cub’s life? What’s the difference?
“Those pesky humans…they are a blight on the world…they should be eradicated…or at least forced to stay within certain boundaries so the rest of nature can be free and flourish…”
I can’t believe it! I agree with an idiot!
I personally would NOT toast 1000 bears for 1 human. Humans are not what they’re cracked up to be. Just wait to see what our grandchildren have to say about the greatness of humans as they will be left to clean up our mess (if they survive, and if it’s even cleanable).
Give me bears anyday.
Macho Man Magic-Underwear Mitt Romney was saving souls during Vietnam, but in France.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/romney/articles/part1_side_2/
“As the Vietnam War raged in the 1960s, Mitt Romney received a deferment from the draft as a Mormon “minister of religion” for the duration of his missionary work in France, which lasted two and a half years.”
Aren’t Rethuglicans wonderful?
I honestly don’t see what the problem is. The guy received a ticket for not stowing food. It was his dumbass fault for not securing food that led a bear to the campsite. Reckless endangerment would have been more appropriate, but I guess this gives mom better ground for sole custody. Hopefully someone had it butchered & it didn’t go to waste.
Oh, and the natural habitat for H. sapien is the wild…We didn’t evolve in suburbia inside of climate controlled houses. There is too much Greenpeace nonsense going on here.
Bullshit, it hasn’t been until the last decade that the bear & elk population have increased enough to necessitate hunting to control in PA, and the game commission has been around over 100 years. Too much faux news.
Nice point (to whomever) that he didn’t get down & pray.
bernard:
And the stupid bastard wouldn’t have tasted a drop of wine in those 2.5 years. What a waste.
I sure hope Magic Underwear gets the nomination … tilt … game over.
The statistical odds of throwing a stick/log at a bear and killing have got to be a fraction of the odds of getting struck by lightening. Pay the fine and hug your kid that is still alive. Don’t get me started on the over-hunting problem we have in Texas. You know those darn deer need to be shot or else they will overpopulate here
I completely agree that I’d have protected my child as well, Dave. I wouldn’t have put my child, or another man’s child in this kind of danger to begin with.
This guy was an idiot. In fact, this guy was a dangerous idiot. If you want to play the evolution card, play it correctly. Evolution does not care whether a child lives or dies, it occurs under both circumstances. Evolution doesn’t make “moral” choices, it’s a process. In this particular circumstance, evolution favored brute strength and accuracy over intelligence. Now the child can grow up, and hopefully be smarter than its father. Then the child will have been given the gift of its father’s genetic predisposition to strength and accuracy and hopefully be imparted with a little knowledge and intelligence too.
I still take exception to your statement and Phreedm’s that the man didn’t deserve a ticket. I’ve given copious reasons that he did. Look at Phreedm’s tactic, again in play. He picks out one thing that he thinks is “weak” in my argument and goes after that. He ignores all the rest: cognitive dissonance. He is capable of holding the belief that he is right and will sift through anything contrary to that to find something that he thinks he can use to weaken the other side of the argument. All the rest of the points that have been raised are ignored completely.
The reality is, this man is NOT A HERO. He is an ordinary, stupid man that did an extraordinary thing.
If the man had taken his child out into the middle of the street and left his child there until a bus came along only to rush out in the street and grab the child just before the bus hit it, would he still be a hero?
He created the danger the child was placed in by being an idiot. Saving his child from his own stupidity is hardly laudable.
Atomic — See your point and agree, but he still killed a bear with a stick, which is muy macho. OK lucky and stupid to have been there in the first place, but still, macho macho macho. Not a hero, maybe downright stupid, but muy macho.
Once again. It was not “muy macho”. It was blind stupid luck. If the kid inherits his fathers behaviors he will wind up in many risky situations and off himself before he has had a chance to reproduce.
Sounds like material for “Jackass 3″