That’s right children. Our illustrious President has appointed James Holsinger, a member of the United Methodist Judicial Council and founder of the Hope Springs Community Church. How about that little ones. We got a doctor who can cure gayness. Read the DailyKos entry linked to in the title of this posting.Peter Nuhn
Too bad you can’t cure stupid…
Could Bush F things up any worse? Yup, he sure can.
Let’s hope he won’t be confirmed.
Bush and his appointed idiots ? well, birds of a feather…
This is another one of those “If you’re not outraged, then you’re not paying attention” scenerios…
I’m terminally straight but this stuff just makes my blood boil!!
The ironic thing is that judging on similar past performances it would come as no surprise if this guy was in fact gay himself.
Does he perform exorcisms too?
*sigh*
Time to write my representatives again.
I am so frustrated with what has become of these borders….
although I appreciate the opposite sex….I do not subscribe to any hook us – poke us (religion prevailing over commen sense, sciences and experience)….
whats next…Pat Robertson in charge of the FCC….
What is worse of all is the man (Bush) was relected. what is with people today are they that blind I mean come on
Im sorry…I voted for Bush on the first round and Kerry on the second
I just did not know….
Should I be stoned to death…or are the non religious not that into sophisticated barbarism….
alexatheist
Too bad you can’t cure stupid…
Beautiful
It’s about time we got someone agreeing with what I’ve thought all along. The APA’s decision to remove homosexuality from the list of mental disorders was wrong all along.
Doesn’t anyone get taught about the natural law anymore?
That’s sad. How much can this guy fuck up our country before he gets booted out of office? Sigh.
Jacob23
Which natural laws? The ones theologians just made up to suit their narrow prejudices, or the ones that are actually observed in nature?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html
http://seedmagazine.com/news/2006/06/the_gay_animal_kingdom.php?page=all&p=y
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm
http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm
Get a clue.
Jacob23,
In case you didn’t see the last bit from r4d:
Get a clue.
More on Holsinger, but obvious:
Holsinger has been active in the United Methodist Church. As a member of its Judicial Council, the highest judicial body within the UMC, he joined with the majority in a controversial decision arising from the attempt to remove an openly le**an pastor from her post. On April 29, 2004, by a vote of six to three, the Council ruled:
Since the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching, self-avowed practicing homosexuals are not to be accepted as candidates, ordained as ministers, or appointed to serve in The United Methodist Church.
In 1991, Holsinger had resigned from a UMC panel on homosexuality; Time reported that he had left the panel “because he felt certain its conclusions would follow liberal lines.”
He’s got a cure for happiness also. Take to communion wafers and call me in the morning.
Jacob23:
Don’t ya feel stupid being so dumb?
Here’s a hint: If you keep quiet those of who don’t already know how dumb you are may not find out.
Try it.
BushCo’s throwing the RR another bone for their undying support. The appropriate response is to simply ridicule this quack.
Comment from: GodFree&Glad
Huh…?
I know I’ve made mistakes in the past…but when someone claims someone else is dumb…and then writes an incoherent sentence trying to make their point…well…it’s just too much…
Thanks for the chuckle…let’s see if free&glad can laugh at themselves…
More to the point…IMO we should do away with the position of Surgeon General…it’s a worthless position that we all pay for…
And don’t forget Clinton’s gem…Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders
Apparently Bush is merely continuing a tradition…Elders went to college on a scholarship from the Methodist church…
Joycelyn Elders spoke her mind in a very realistic fashion about sexuality which is what got her fired. Americans can’t cope very well with frank discussions or thoughts of sexuality yet at the same time we are one of the most sex obsessed nations in the world. America is schizophrenic when it comes to sex.
GodFree,
I understood it.
What irony.
phreedm would have understood it perfectly if it’d had an ellipse at the end…
Speaking of total crack pots, Joe Scarboro (sp?) just showed a video of Bill O’Reilly proclaiming that the recent TB scare was all the fault of progressive secularists.
WTF? You ask? How does he put that together? Well, you see, it’s because we’re so immoral, and we only think about ourselves, and the whole country is starting to take that attitude.
*Snort*
rainbows4dinosaurs,
You should finish your thought though. Because if there are gay animals in nature, what happens to them? Hmm, unless they change their ways, they die out. Part of nature’s wonderful plan.
I know of a sectarian fundamentalist christian church that claims to straighten homosexuals. It’s the Triangle Church of Christ near Raleigh,NC. They took a husband from me– he got religion and decided that he didn’t want to be gay any more. If we get a Surgeon General who tries to reverse the American Psychiatric Association’s ruling on homosexuality it will be a sad day for the LGBT community.
Jackass23
You should start a thought sometime. Assuming, as you appear to be doing, that homosexuality is genetically coded then a constant gene frequency would be maintained in the absense of changing selection pressures.
Sammorjr,
WTF is wrong with the Raleigh area? I wonder why I have wasted 11 yrs living here…
Don’t worry though becasue the failed Bush administration is on borrowed time and soon there will be a Democratic president and Congress and things can return to a semblance of sanity.
“Triangle Church of Christ”? They sound pretty square to me!
Jacob:
There’s no ‘if’ about it.
You obviously don’t have a clue.
Maybe they should change that to, “The Upside-down, Pink Triangle Church of Christ”
No wait. My bad! That’s where they change straight people to homosexuals.
Ren
Wait, I’m getting confused.
Which church makes the straight animals gay?
“Which church makes the straight animlas gay?”
Karen that would be my house. My two desexed male cats hump each other on a regular basis. Talk about the definition of futility.
Alex
Yeah, my neutered male cat tries to hump his sister occasionally, but she hisses, growls and swats him.
My friend’s neutered male 6 yr old cat tries regularly to hump their new-found also neutered male yr old cat. They talk loudly, but no fighting ensues.
And right now my calico is telling me it’s time for bed.
I used to own a male Dalmatian and we would occasionally watch another male Dalmatian for some friends when they were deployed or in the field. Anyhow, never mind that there was also a young, adult female Dalmatian vying for their affections; whenever they would get together, they would try to hump each other until they could hardly stand any longer.
I don’t think they were “gay”, so much as they were just trying to show dominance over one another in front of the female. But what the hell do I know?
uh, my 2 female dogs used to hump each other.
“I have a deep and abiding love for my Lord, Jesus Christ,” Edwards said, but he said the United States shouldn’t be called a Christian nation.
John Edwards
There are only certain kinds of fish I have an interest in. Is someone proclaiming some sort of cure for that too?
Nevermind I just downed a fish oil pill. I guess I can handle a little aftertaste so long as I still have my man scent and don’t have to have that stinky fish smell on my face.
I can see the new message on the pack of cigs now. Surgeon general warns if you dont not accept jesus it may be hazardous to your soul !!!
Speaking of the O’ reilly TB scare, has anyone else here watched “V for Vendetta?” They do a great parody of an O’Reilly-esk type creature.
Boy, typing sure is difficult with a 6 weeks old baby in your arms!
V For Vendetta is one of the most important movies ever made and I have often proclaimed as much in earlier threads.
Jacob23
Nothing in nature is cut and dry – there are ‘anomalies’ everywhere. It has been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that sexuality in all animals, including humans, is infinitely more fluid, dynamic and interesting than what is required for mere procreation. There are many social uses and advantages for sex beyond making babies, and all of these uses can contribute to a species’ survival and success. Also, to your point, it is very likely that this diversity of sexuality is a byproduct of the sex drive itself, and that an incredibly strong sex drive is exactly what is needed to keep a species going. It could be argued that if the sex drive was indeed limited to monogamous, lifelong pare-bondings, which are actually quite rare, then such behavior would actually prove to be a hinderance to survival. The shotgun approach just tends to work better in the long run.
Comment from: sammorjr
Wow…thanks for the proof that it is possible…apparently it is a choice for this particular example…
r4d…
Agreed…now isn’t it amazing that humans survived…
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1420897
Wow…as few as 5000…?
Or more likely…as few as 8…once again, science in perfect concert with the bible…
The point being, humans can survive and repopulate the planet with only a handful of survivors…
Phreedm,
‘Wow’ indeed. How did you manage to translate ‘as few as 5000′ into ‘as few as 8′? How can anybody possibly argue that the idea of a mere eight individuals, all related, repopulating an entire planet is actually ‘more likely’ than what the evidence actually shows? And by citing this article, are you admitting that there were humans (or even a universe) 80,000 years ago? Considering all your resent cheerleading and grandstanding for Ken Ham’s ‘museum’, I find that quite surprising.
Doesn’t all this cognitive dissonance twirling around in your brain give you headaches? Because just having to listen to it sure gives me one.
Wow, the theistic mind sees an estimation that is ~1,000 times larger than what the babble states, and declares victory.
But now that I think about it, 6,000 year old earth * 1000 = 6 million years. It’s a bit closer to reality.
I think I just found a rough multiplier for handling YECs.
Jeez-O-Pete Phreedy!
Has your argument really stooped to proving the bible as literal?
Where is Clarence Darrow when you need him!
Also, the University of Utah…hmm, they wouldn’t be religiously biased out there in Utah, would they? I mean, shit, maybe some gold tablets fell from the sky and told them that homosexuality was curable?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070606/ap_on_re_us/surgeon_general_gays;_ylt=AiEfjrFHbtPj2pN1jclVCYPMWM0F