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	<title>Comments on: HappyFeet &#8212; a rationalist message?</title>
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		<title>By: imaskeptic</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/06/03/happyfeet_a_rationalist_message/comment-page-1#comment-60519</link>
		<dc:creator>imaskeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even penguins go on heros&#039; journeys. In this case the hero might be the writer or producer of the story. My daughter is a zookeeper in charge of birds; she says they&#039;re smart.I&#039;m sure she isn&#039;t surprised by the penguin&#039;s triumph over the superstitions of its society... she also says that some penguins are cliquish and form exclusive groups for years...they really do echo our society...we need a hero (other than peyton manning of course)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even penguins go on heros&#8217; journeys. In this case the hero might be the writer or producer of the story. My daughter is a zookeeper in charge of birds; she says they&#8217;re smart.I&#8217;m sure she isn&#8217;t surprised by the penguin&#8217;s triumph over the superstitions of its society&#8230; she also says that some penguins are cliquish and form exclusive groups for years&#8230;they really do echo our society&#8230;we need a hero (other than peyton manning of course)</p>
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		<title>By: reedbraden</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/06/03/happyfeet_a_rationalist_message/comment-page-1#comment-60520</link>
		<dc:creator>reedbraden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God dammity damn... I had successfully avoided having to watch this movie and now it looks like I &lt;strong&gt;have&lt;/strong&gt; to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God dammity damn&#8230; I had successfully avoided having to watch this movie and now it looks like I <strong>have</strong> to.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/06/03/happyfeet_a_rationalist_message/comment-page-1#comment-60527</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same response to the movie.  We watched it in the theaters last fall and our kids loved it...this might be one we add to our library.  It has a great message :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same response to the movie.  We watched it in the theaters last fall and our kids loved it&#8230;this might be one we add to our library.  It has a great message <img src='http://atheists.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: atheistself</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/06/03/happyfeet_a_rationalist_message/comment-page-1#comment-60534</link>
		<dc:creator>atheistself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also found Happy Feet to be a kind of Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer (you remember, the stop-motion tv movie narrated by Burl Ives?) in the Antarctic. Other than both being song-filled polar adventures:&lt;br /&gt;
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[sort-of spoilers below?]&lt;br /&gt;
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- misfit kid is born to the shame of his father, an outstanding member of the community, who encourages him to be just like everybody else.&lt;br /&gt;
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- misfit&#039;s quirk is eventually discovered by classmates, who shun him, except for the loveliest female.&lt;br /&gt;
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- kid finally leaves, meets kooky friends who respect and follow him&lt;br /&gt;
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- what started as direction-less travel turns into a quest to save his family&lt;br /&gt;
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- goes up against the greatest of dangers, ultimately bringing back that which caused the danger, reformed, to their aid&lt;br /&gt;
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- misfit&#039;s quirk becomes a valuable talent, and misfit becomes hero</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also found Happy Feet to be a kind of Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer (you remember, the stop-motion tv movie narrated by Burl Ives?) in the Antarctic. Other than both being song-filled polar adventures:</p>
<p>[sort-of spoilers below?]</p>
<p>- misfit kid is born to the shame of his father, an outstanding member of the community, who encourages him to be just like everybody else.</p>
<p>- misfit&#8217;s quirk is eventually discovered by classmates, who shun him, except for the loveliest female.</p>
<p>- kid finally leaves, meets kooky friends who respect and follow him</p>
<p>- what started as direction-less travel turns into a quest to save his family</p>
<p>- goes up against the greatest of dangers, ultimately bringing back that which caused the danger, reformed, to their aid</p>
<p>- misfit&#8217;s quirk becomes a valuable talent, and misfit becomes hero</p>
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		<title>By: mikayla</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/06/03/happyfeet_a_rationalist_message/comment-page-1#comment-60545</link>
		<dc:creator>mikayla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the movie had a great message, both about searching for the truth and not just accepting established authority (or religion) and about protecting the environment. Bit simplistic, but it was adorable :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the movie had a great message, both about searching for the truth and not just accepting established authority (or religion) and about protecting the environment. Bit simplistic, but it was adorable <img src='http://atheists.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Apple_Christmas</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/06/03/happyfeet_a_rationalist_message/comment-page-1#comment-60552</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple_Christmas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reed:&lt;br /&gt;
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Don&#039;t bother. There really aren&#039;t any religious (or anti-religious) overtones, and the dance/singing sequences are painful to watch. This was the first Pixar movie that I really disliked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reed:</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother. There really aren&#8217;t any religious (or anti-religious) overtones, and the dance/singing sequences are painful to watch. This was the first Pixar movie that I really disliked.</p>
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		<title>By: AAJoeyJoJo</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/06/03/happyfeet_a_rationalist_message/comment-page-1#comment-60574</link>
		<dc:creator>AAJoeyJoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this movie a couple of times, and I didn&#039;t think of it like that until now. The religion is subtle, and though the god in it gets mentioned a few times, the overwhelming character situations are focused on the real animals involved. What strikes the viewer right away is where they are. It&#039;s very desolate there, and the animators drove that home well. The rule of the day seemed to be, &quot;This is all you&#039;ve got, deal with it. That&#039;s reality.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The message of independent thought really works well, and of course the outcast mentality as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now as a drummer, I found the dancing and the sound of the dancing to be a bit crass. Penguins can&#039;t do that! :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this movie a couple of times, and I didn&#8217;t think of it like that until now. The religion is subtle, and though the god in it gets mentioned a few times, the overwhelming character situations are focused on the real animals involved. What strikes the viewer right away is where they are. It&#8217;s very desolate there, and the animators drove that home well. The rule of the day seemed to be, &#8220;This is all you&#8217;ve got, deal with it. That&#8217;s reality.&#8221;</p>
<p>The message of independent thought really works well, and of course the outcast mentality as well.</p>
<p>Now as a drummer, I found the dancing and the sound of the dancing to be a bit crass. Penguins can&#8217;t do that! <img src='http://atheists.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: atheistself</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/06/03/happyfeet_a_rationalist_message/comment-page-1#comment-60624</link>
		<dc:creator>atheistself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Apple_Christmas: &quot;This was the first Pixar movie that I really disliked.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Then you will be happy to know this wasn&#039;t a Pixar movie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Apple_Christmas: &#8220;This was the first Pixar movie that I really disliked.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you will be happy to know this wasn&#8217;t a Pixar movie!</p>
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		<title>By: evilatheistconquerer</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/06/03/happyfeet_a_rationalist_message/comment-page-1#comment-60629</link>
		<dc:creator>evilatheistconquerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know all the right-wingers were terrified of this movie.  Fox News even went on for a while about how it had a liberal agenda and endorsed homosexuality and separation of church and state.  I haven&#039;t seen it myself, but if Fox News hates it, it must be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know all the right-wingers were terrified of this movie.  Fox News even went on for a while about how it had a liberal agenda and endorsed homosexuality and separation of church and state.  I haven&#8217;t seen it myself, but if Fox News hates it, it must be good.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesin</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/06/03/happyfeet_a_rationalist_message/comment-page-1#comment-60649</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I actually intended to post something about this when it was still in theaters, but I forgot.  Really, it was such a good movie that few people seemed to notice the way it spoke out against religion and for the separation of church and state.  I actually saw it 3 times in theaters, the third time in IMAX, and each time that message jumped out at me more and more.&lt;br /&gt;
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I would, however, like to point out one misrepresentation of religion:  When Noah the Elder saw the helicopter in his face, &lt;em&gt;he actually admitted that he was wrong on the basis of nothing but concrete, empirical evidence!&lt;/em&gt;  It would really be nice if the Pope would do that too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I actually intended to post something about this when it was still in theaters, but I forgot.  Really, it was such a good movie that few people seemed to notice the way it spoke out against religion and for the separation of church and state.  I actually saw it 3 times in theaters, the third time in IMAX, and each time that message jumped out at me more and more.</p>
<p>I would, however, like to point out one misrepresentation of religion:  When Noah the Elder saw the helicopter in his face, <em>he actually admitted that he was wrong on the basis of nothing but concrete, empirical evidence!</em>  It would really be nice if the Pope would do that too.</p>
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