Comments on: Union of Concerned Scientists Create Unique Guide http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/10/union_of_concerned_scientists_create_uni A Blog of Atheist Thought Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:59:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: alexatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/10/union_of_concerned_scientists_create_uni/comment-page-1#comment-59130 alexatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-59130 There is an excellent book on this very topic called "The Republican War on Science" by Chris Mooney. It is a wonderful read.<br /> <br /> http://www.waronscience.com/home.php<br /> There is an excellent book on this very topic called “The Republican War on Science” by Chris Mooney. It is a wonderful read.

http://www.waronscience.com/home.php

]]> By: phreedm http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/10/union_of_concerned_scientists_create_uni/comment-page-1#comment-59157 phreedm Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-59157 Here's a question...<br /> <br /> Why are all of the "Global Warming" fanatics all Liberals...?<br /> <br /> Here’s a question…

Why are all of the “Global Warming” fanatics all Liberals…?

]]> By: reason http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/10/union_of_concerned_scientists_create_uni/comment-page-1#comment-59159 reason Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-59159 i'm curious phreedm do you think existing law is to strict.what do you think of the exemptions some get from current laws.even if you don't believe in global warming wouldn't it at least be prudent to enforce with vigor current law. i’m curious phreedm do you think existing law is to strict.what do you think of the exemptions some get from current laws.even if you don’t believe in global warming wouldn’t it at least be prudent to enforce with vigor current law.

]]> By: phreedm http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/10/union_of_concerned_scientists_create_uni/comment-page-1#comment-59161 phreedm Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-59161 "I see the third main threat to individual freedom in environmentalism."<br /> <br /> V?clav Klaus is president of the Czech Republic. This essay is based on a speech he delivered at the Cato Institute on March 9, 2007.<br /> <br /> <blockquote>I came here today as president of the free and democratic Czech Republic?a country that succeeded more than 17 years ago in getting rid of communism...<br /> <br /> The reason for my concern is the emergence of new, very popular and fashionable, ?isms? that again put various issues, visions, plans, and projects ahead of individual freedom and liberty. There is social-democratism, which is nothing more than a milder and softer version of communism, and there is human-rightism, which is based on the idea of mostly positive rights applicable all over the world. There are also internationalism, multiculturalism, europeism, feminism, environmentalism, and other similar ideologies.<br /> <br /> Communism is over, but attempts to rule from above are still here, or perhaps they have merely returned.<br /> ...<br /> <br /> I see the third main threat to individual freedom in environmentalism. To be specific, I do understand the concerns about eventual environmental degradation, but I also see a problem in environmentalism as an ideology.<br /> <br /> Environmentalism only pretends to deal with environmental protection. Behind their people- and nature-friendly terminology, the adherents of environmentalism make ambitious attempts to radically reorganize and change the world, human society, our behavior, and our values.</blockquote><br /> <br /> http://www.civita.no/civ.php?mod=news&cat=8&id=473<br /> <br /> <br /> “I see the third main threat to individual freedom in environmentalism.”

V?clav Klaus is president of the Czech Republic. This essay is based on a speech he delivered at the Cato Institute on March 9, 2007.

I came here today as president of the free and democratic Czech Republic?a country that succeeded more than 17 years ago in getting rid of communism…

The reason for my concern is the emergence of new, very popular and fashionable, ?isms? that again put various issues, visions, plans, and projects ahead of individual freedom and liberty. There is social-democratism, which is nothing more than a milder and softer version of communism, and there is human-rightism, which is based on the idea of mostly positive rights applicable all over the world. There are also internationalism, multiculturalism, europeism, feminism, environmentalism, and other similar ideologies.

Communism is over, but attempts to rule from above are still here, or perhaps they have merely returned.
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I see the third main threat to individual freedom in environmentalism. To be specific, I do understand the concerns about eventual environmental degradation, but I also see a problem in environmentalism as an ideology.

Environmentalism only pretends to deal with environmental protection. Behind their people- and nature-friendly terminology, the adherents of environmentalism make ambitious attempts to radically reorganize and change the world, human society, our behavior, and our values.

http://www.civita.no/civ.php?mod=news&cat=8&id=473

]]> By: phreedm http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/10/union_of_concerned_scientists_create_uni/comment-page-1#comment-59162 phreedm Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-59162 reason...please give me an example reason…please give me an example

]]> By: reason http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/10/union_of_concerned_scientists_create_uni/comment-page-1#comment-59163 reason Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-59163 phreedm i agree that there are radicals involved but most who want to protect nature are not trying to reorganize society.nixon started the epa i wouldn't call him a liberal. phreedm i agree that there are radicals involved but most who want to protect nature are not trying to reorganize society.nixon started the epa i wouldn’t call him a liberal.

]]> By: reason http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/10/union_of_concerned_scientists_create_uni/comment-page-1#comment-59164 reason Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-59164 phreedm if i recall correctly during clinton admin some older plants got extensions on when they had to comply with emission rules.sorry i have forgotten the specfics. phreedm if i recall correctly during clinton admin some older plants got extensions on when they had to comply with emission rules.sorry i have forgotten the specfics.

]]> By: alexatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/10/union_of_concerned_scientists_create_uni/comment-page-1#comment-59165 alexatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-59165 Evangelical Climate Initiative<br /> <br /> http://www.christiansandclimate.org/<br /> <br /> Contrary to the spin that Fox News and most of the religious right put on climate change, the fact of the matter is that there is no debate about the reality of climate change. It is not a liberal vs conservative issue excpet for the Bill O'Reillys and Sean Hannitys of the world who really don't understand the scientific method in any case. The science is sound and supported by all credible scientists. Perhaps Al Gore is somewhat hystrionic about the topic but that doesn't change the scientific consensus that climate change is real and is a direct result of human activities. Evangelical Climate Initiative

http://www.christiansandclimate.org/

Contrary to the spin that Fox News and most of the religious right put on climate change, the fact of the matter is that there is no debate about the reality of climate change. It is not a liberal vs conservative issue excpet for the Bill O’Reillys and Sean Hannitys of the world who really don’t understand the scientific method in any case. The science is sound and supported by all credible scientists. Perhaps Al Gore is somewhat hystrionic about the topic but that doesn’t change the scientific consensus that climate change is real and is a direct result of human activities.

]]> By: phreedm http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/10/union_of_concerned_scientists_create_uni/comment-page-1#comment-59166 phreedm Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-59166 reason...one truth about most high profile environmentalists is "do as I say, not as I do"...<br /> <br /> It's one of my main complaints about liberals...they always see problems with the way others are living...<br /> <br /> You know...like "privately" funding a museum in Cincinattii...<br /> <br /> reason…one truth about most high profile environmentalists is “do as I say, not as I do”…

It’s one of my main complaints about liberals…they always see problems with the way others are living…

You know…like “privately” funding a museum in Cincinattii…

]]> By: phreedm http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/10/union_of_concerned_scientists_create_uni/comment-page-1#comment-59167 phreedm Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-59167 alex...there is not doubt "climates" change... <br /> <br /> The question is, are we responsible?<br /> <br /> Why is Mars also experiencing "global warming"?<br /> <br /> It's happened before and it is happening now...<br /> <br /> <br /> China has surpased the US in pollution...yet the Kyoto treaty exempted them...<br /> <br /> The Financial Times just revealed the hoax of "carbon credits"...<br /> <br /> And I would disagree with your statement that "sound science" has proven global warming...<br /> <br /> alex…there is not doubt “climates” change…

The question is, are we responsible?

Why is Mars also experiencing “global warming”?

It’s happened before and it is happening now…

China has surpased the US in pollution…yet the Kyoto treaty exempted them…

The Financial Times just revealed the hoax of “carbon credits”…

And I would disagree with your statement that “sound science” has proven global warming…

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