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	<title>Comments on: Three Republican Candidates Are Arkonuts</title>
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		<title>By: Phideaux</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/04/three_republican_candidates_are_arkonuts/comment-page-1#comment-58750</link>
		<dc:creator>Phideaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I saw three hands go up I couldn&#039;t believe it. Imagine a leader of the free world who doesn&#039;t know s!!t about science. &lt;br /&gt;
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Imagine the message a creationist president would give to education and science research.&lt;br /&gt;
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Shudder. &lt;br /&gt;
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We all pay for ignorance when it is at the highest levels making decisions for us. &lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s pretty bad when the fundie Christian types make the Mormon guy look middle of the pack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I saw three hands go up I couldn&#8217;t believe it. Imagine a leader of the free world who doesn&#8217;t know s!!t about science. </p>
<p>Imagine the message a creationist president would give to education and science research.</p>
<p>Shudder. </p>
<p>We all pay for ignorance when it is at the highest levels making decisions for us. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty bad when the fundie Christian types make the Mormon guy look middle of the pack.</p>
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		<title>By: rdmiller3</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/04/three_republican_candidates_are_arkonuts/comment-page-1#comment-58757</link>
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		<description>Have you EVER heard a politician answer a question in a publicized forum with a simple &quot;yes&quot; or &quot;no&quot;?  Of course not.  They spout like geisers whenever anyone asks them a question... IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.  This McCain obviously doesn&#039;t have a message at all, but was just covering his ass when he added that baloney about the &quot;hand of god&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you EVER heard a politician answer a question in a publicized forum with a simple &#8220;yes&#8221; or &#8220;no&#8221;?  Of course not.  They spout like geisers whenever anyone asks them a question&#8230; IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.  This McCain obviously doesn&#8217;t have a message at all, but was just covering his ass when he added that baloney about the &#8220;hand of god&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt2h</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/05/04/three_republican_candidates_are_arkonuts/comment-page-1#comment-58758</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you!!&lt;br /&gt;
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I went nuts over that as well. &lt;br /&gt;
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In Thursday night&#039;s Republican Presidential debate on MSNBC, 3 of the Republican candidates expressed something so shocking I could not believe it. &lt;br /&gt;
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Upon being asked if anyone on the stage &quot;does not believe in evolution,&quot; Senator Sam Brownback, Former Governor Mike Huckabee, and Representative Tom Tancredo raised their hands. That alone should spell an immediate end to their respective candidacies. It indicates that their minds have been so thoroughly poisoned by religious literalism - truly fundamentalism of the most dangerous kind - that they have lost touch with reality. &lt;br /&gt;
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As if it needed repeating, there is no debate within the scientific community regarding the overwhelming validity of the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection. It is most unfortunate that a handful of religious extremists have created the illusion, in the public sphere, that there is anything to discuss as far as science is concerned. &lt;br /&gt;
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What does need to be discussed, on the other hand, is the very nature of religious faith as a mode of knowing about the world. I submit to you that this is a clear case of faith having overstepped its bounds. Your faith should not require you to deny matters of overwhelming empirical fact. Faith operates within a different realm than that - a realm beyond the sensible world from which science extracts its data. As the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan once put it, &quot;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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As prominent Harvard biologists Stephen Jay Gould and Edward O. Wilson have insisted, there is no necessary conflict between religion and science, presuming the former deals with &quot;why&quot; and the latter with &quot;how.&quot; Those trained in the analysis of physical data should not pretend to philosophical or literary expertise, and those trained in the tradition of attempts to interpret the human condition should not pretend to scientific expertise. &lt;br /&gt;
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Quite simply, our 3 dear Republican candidates overstepped their bounds as men of faith, Thursday night, by dissenting on a matter on which they clearly don&#039;t have the education to be able to intelligently opine.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!!</p>
<p>I went nuts over that as well. </p>
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In Thursday night&#8217;s Republican Presidential debate on MSNBC, 3 of the Republican candidates expressed something so shocking I could not believe it. </p>
<p>Upon being asked if anyone on the stage &#8220;does not believe in evolution,&#8221; Senator Sam Brownback, Former Governor Mike Huckabee, and Representative Tom Tancredo raised their hands. That alone should spell an immediate end to their respective candidacies. It indicates that their minds have been so thoroughly poisoned by religious literalism &#8211; truly fundamentalism of the most dangerous kind &#8211; that they have lost touch with reality. </p>
<p>As if it needed repeating, there is no debate within the scientific community regarding the overwhelming validity of the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection. It is most unfortunate that a handful of religious extremists have created the illusion, in the public sphere, that there is anything to discuss as far as science is concerned. </p>
<p>What does need to be discussed, on the other hand, is the very nature of religious faith as a mode of knowing about the world. I submit to you that this is a clear case of faith having overstepped its bounds. Your faith should not require you to deny matters of overwhelming empirical fact. Faith operates within a different realm than that &#8211; a realm beyond the sensible world from which science extracts its data. As the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan once put it, &#8220;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.&#8221;</p>
<p>As prominent Harvard biologists Stephen Jay Gould and Edward O. Wilson have insisted, there is no necessary conflict between religion and science, presuming the former deals with &#8220;why&#8221; and the latter with &#8220;how.&#8221; Those trained in the analysis of physical data should not pretend to philosophical or literary expertise, and those trained in the tradition of attempts to interpret the human condition should not pretend to scientific expertise. </p>
<p>Quite simply, our 3 dear Republican candidates overstepped their bounds as men of faith, Thursday night, by dissenting on a matter on which they clearly don&#8217;t have the education to be able to intelligently opine.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt2h</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should qualify my intiial paragraph. ... so shocking I almost couldn&#039;t believe it - until, of course, I remembered whose party they hailed from</description>
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		<title>By: mryder66</title>
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		<description>I only hope it&#039;s the kind of expressed belief whose reality lasts as long as it achieves in getting the proclaimer the votes they are looking for.&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder what the public position of our esteemed president is on the topic of evolution.  Could this question become an issue in the coming election?&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>I wonder what the public position of our esteemed president is on the topic of evolution.  Could this question become an issue in the coming election?</p>
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