Comments on: title_17 http://atheists.org/blog/2007/04/17/title_17 A Blog of Atheist Thought Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:31:39 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: aussieatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2007/04/17/title_17/comment-page-1#comment-57347 aussieatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-57347 I can assure everyone there is 'no growth of religious powa down under" These people are money grubbing idiots. Sucking gullable people into a religious sect to rob them of their money. These turkeys want to be the next Benny Hinn. Churches have never been emptier, and the only way the religious establishment survives hear is running their schools, hospitals, and old folks homes. I don't know anyome who is an outed xtian, and I have a wide circle of friends. Hillsong I beleive has a bit of a following down in Sydney, but by and large the vast majority of Australians ignore religion completely. <br /> Australians are a secular lot, although most can't be bothered even discussing it, so rediculous is the conept of religion and the sky god. I can assure everyone there is ‘no growth of religious powa down under” These people are money grubbing idiots. Sucking gullable people into a religious sect to rob them of their money. These turkeys want to be the next Benny Hinn. Churches have never been emptier, and the only way the religious establishment survives hear is running their schools, hospitals, and old folks homes. I don’t know anyome who is an outed xtian, and I have a wide circle of friends. Hillsong I beleive has a bit of a following down in Sydney, but by and large the vast majority of Australians ignore religion completely.
Australians are a secular lot, although most can’t be bothered even discussing it, so rediculous is the conept of religion and the sky god.

]]> By: alexatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2007/04/17/title_17/comment-page-1#comment-57354 alexatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-57354 Apparently the Australians are exporting their xian crazies to the USA:<br /> <br /> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/6549595.stm<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Apparently the Australians are exporting their xian crazies to the USA:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/6549595.stm

]]> By: RiftPoint http://atheists.org/blog/2007/04/17/title_17/comment-page-1#comment-57377 RiftPoint Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-57377 Great, like we really need any more of them over here... (if its true) Great, like we really need any more of them over here… (if its true)

]]> By: aussieatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2007/04/17/title_17/comment-page-1#comment-57380 aussieatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-57380 To Alexatheist<br /> I wasted 5 minutes of my life to read that article and I note that far from being an export, "Ken Ham left australia 20 years ago" to start his BS ministry about creationism. Dare I contend that perhaps he found fertile ground to set up his deceitful delusion amongst the millions of gullable xians in the US and especially in South America. <br /> Aus exports are limited to mineral and animal products, {of the eating kind}, and this guy would have found little following in this tiny secular country with a pop of only 20 million.<br /> Speaking of which, has anyone tried eating kangaroo? It's strong and gamey and a bit like venison. Low in fat and cholesterol, its better for you than beef and horsemeat. We export millions of tons for pet food. Poor Skippy - but they are in plague proportions here and in the outback. We are in drought at the moment and some country towns have had mobs moving thru town grazing on front yards ! (Hope I haven't upset any animal libs or vegetarians) To Alexatheist
I wasted 5 minutes of my life to read that article and I note that far from being an export, “Ken Ham left australia 20 years ago” to start his BS ministry about creationism. Dare I contend that perhaps he found fertile ground to set up his deceitful delusion amongst the millions of gullable xians in the US and especially in South America.
Aus exports are limited to mineral and animal products, {of the eating kind}, and this guy would have found little following in this tiny secular country with a pop of only 20 million.
Speaking of which, has anyone tried eating kangaroo? It’s strong and gamey and a bit like venison. Low in fat and cholesterol, its better for you than beef and horsemeat. We export millions of tons for pet food. Poor Skippy – but they are in plague proportions here and in the outback. We are in drought at the moment and some country towns have had mobs moving thru town grazing on front yards ! (Hope I haven’t upset any animal libs or vegetarians)

]]> By: DD Dropout http://atheists.org/blog/2007/04/17/title_17/comment-page-1#comment-57381 DD Dropout Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-57381 Now if only we could keep American xian crazies out of Canada. If there are any Canadians down there gulling the faith-sufferers, maybe we can arrange an exchange.<br /> <br /> One I could do without is Focus on the Family's Praise106.5 which is located near the border in rural Washington, specifically to access over 2 million Canadians in SW British Columbia. Now if only we could keep American xian crazies out of Canada. If there are any Canadians down there gulling the faith-sufferers, maybe we can arrange an exchange.

One I could do without is Focus on the Family’s Praise106.5 which is located near the border in rural Washington, specifically to access over 2 million Canadians in SW British Columbia.

]]> By: Celebrant Prince http://atheists.org/blog/2007/04/17/title_17/comment-page-1#comment-57382 Celebrant Prince Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-57382 Dave's appearance on G'Day World was great! Listen in folks, if you haven't done so already.<br /> <br /> I e-mailed Dave directly about his topic of "putting a face to the label" (why he prefers "atheist" over "secular humanist" as a self-i.d.) but I'd like to briefly state why I don't use "atheist" as a primary self-i.d.<br /> <br /> For me, when someone asks me what religion I am, or otherwise as the subject comes up, I tell them I'm a Humanist. That usually provokes the response "Humanist? What's that? I've never heard of a Humanist". Then I can tell them that a Humanist (note I don't say secular humanist; it's redundant IMO) is a person who believes in people first, in putting the welfare of humanity above all other considerations, who believes in love as the most powerful of all human emotions, who treasures the arts and the sciences, who looks to humans to solve human problems, who doesn't believe in superstitious supernatural nonsense, and so forth. This answer will usually lead to the further question "...then you don't believe in God?". That's when I can tell them no, in that regard I'm an atheist. I also make it clear that I don't consider Humanism to be a religion for me, but rather a philosophical whole-world view.<br /> <br /> By saying in all honesty and candor that I'm a Humanist I've aroused their curiousity and have already defused potential animosity by not leading with the concept of atheism. The more I lead people to discussion on the very positive aspects of humanism the easier it is for them to digest the fact I'm not a believer in the god idea. It often makes for more fruitful dialogue.<br /> <br /> But I'm proud to be an atheist. I'm glad that I reject supernaturalism; it's the only sensible thing to do. And I'm not shy about "blaspheming" ignorant, oppressive, hateful religious beliefs and belief systems. I can manage to ridicule nonsense without (intentionally) ridiculing the person believing in such nonsense. And like David Silverman, I'll go to prison before I give up the right to do so. Dave’s appearance on G’Day World was great! Listen in folks, if you haven’t done so already.

I e-mailed Dave directly about his topic of “putting a face to the label” (why he prefers “atheist” over “secular humanist” as a self-i.d.) but I’d like to briefly state why I don’t use “atheist” as a primary self-i.d.

For me, when someone asks me what religion I am, or otherwise as the subject comes up, I tell them I’m a Humanist. That usually provokes the response “Humanist? What’s that? I’ve never heard of a Humanist”. Then I can tell them that a Humanist (note I don’t say secular humanist; it’s redundant IMO) is a person who believes in people first, in putting the welfare of humanity above all other considerations, who believes in love as the most powerful of all human emotions, who treasures the arts and the sciences, who looks to humans to solve human problems, who doesn’t believe in superstitious supernatural nonsense, and so forth. This answer will usually lead to the further question “…then you don’t believe in God?”. That’s when I can tell them no, in that regard I’m an atheist. I also make it clear that I don’t consider Humanism to be a religion for me, but rather a philosophical whole-world view.

By saying in all honesty and candor that I’m a Humanist I’ve aroused their curiousity and have already defused potential animosity by not leading with the concept of atheism. The more I lead people to discussion on the very positive aspects of humanism the easier it is for them to digest the fact I’m not a believer in the god idea. It often makes for more fruitful dialogue.

But I’m proud to be an atheist. I’m glad that I reject supernaturalism; it’s the only sensible thing to do. And I’m not shy about “blaspheming” ignorant, oppressive, hateful religious beliefs and belief systems. I can manage to ridicule nonsense without (intentionally) ridiculing the person believing in such nonsense. And like David Silverman, I’ll go to prison before I give up the right to do so.

]]> By: phreedm http://atheists.org/blog/2007/04/17/title_17/comment-page-1#comment-57390 phreedm Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-57390 I actually burst out laughing...Atheism is perfect...? <br /> <br /> Sheesh...where's that thread about ego's?<br /> <br /> All religions have been proven wrong time and time again...? Wow...what a claim. Please prove Christianity is wrong?<br /> <br /> 99% of the New Testement predates Jesus by 100's and 1000's of years? <br /> Hmmm...what's the 1% that's original?<br /> <br /> Washington never kneeled before a cross? How in the world would you know that?<br /> <br /> I wonder what light weights you've debated about American History...?<br /> What a distorted view of how religion shaped America...<br /> <br /> From an earlier thread...<br /> <br /> <blockquote>Alexis de Tocqueville observed that the genius of our infant republic lay not in its farms and workshops but in its churches whose "pulpits flame with righteousness."</blockquote><br /> <br /> All and all it reminded me of a 60's lovefest...but I can agree that most places you talk are probably somewhat hostile towards you... <br /> <br /> But then again that's why you get paid the big bucks...<br /> <br /> I actually burst out laughing…Atheism is perfect…?

Sheesh…where’s that thread about ego’s?

All religions have been proven wrong time and time again…? Wow…what a claim. Please prove Christianity is wrong?

99% of the New Testement predates Jesus by 100’s and 1000’s of years?
Hmmm…what’s the 1% that’s original?

Washington never kneeled before a cross? How in the world would you know that?

I wonder what light weights you’ve debated about American History…?
What a distorted view of how religion shaped America…

From an earlier thread…

Alexis de Tocqueville observed that the genius of our infant republic lay not in its farms and workshops but in its churches whose “pulpits flame with righteousness.”

All and all it reminded me of a 60’s lovefest…but I can agree that most places you talk are probably somewhat hostile towards you…

But then again that’s why you get paid the big bucks…

]]> By: Celebrant Prince http://atheists.org/blog/2007/04/17/title_17/comment-page-1#comment-57392 Celebrant Prince Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-57392 barf - retch - puke - gag - heave - ad nauseum ad nauseum ad nauseum --<br /> <br /> Just read phreddy's post.<br /> <br /> Must ... Take ... Shower ... (grunt) barf – retch – puke – gag – heave – ad nauseum ad nauseum ad nauseum –

Just read phreddy’s post.

Must … Take … Shower … (grunt)

]]> By: aussieatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2007/04/17/title_17/comment-page-1#comment-57394 aussieatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-57394 Well bugger you phreedie I thought Celebrant's thoughts were on the money... I wouldn't be lost for words and punch the stupid prick in the mouth if I used that approach on the rare, very rare, xian I meet... Those that have'nt been caught fucking alter boys that is... As over 100 catholic priests and 'brothers' have been CONVICTED of here since 1995...<br /> Most new aquaintances embarras (initially) me by coming out as atheists & come to shake my hand... particularly the friends of a couple of gay mates of ours ... I don't have the omnicient loquaciousness (?) and literacy that most Americans have compared to us dumb Aussies have but I ask this: where's preedyisadumbarse when you need him...? Well bugger you phreedie I thought Celebrant’s thoughts were on the money… I wouldn’t be lost for words and punch the stupid prick in the mouth if I used that approach on the rare, very rare, xian I meet… Those that have’nt been caught fucking alter boys that is… As over 100 catholic priests and ‘brothers’ have been CONVICTED of here since 1995…
Most new aquaintances embarras (initially) me by coming out as atheists & come to shake my hand… particularly the friends of a couple of gay mates of ours … I don’t have the omnicient loquaciousness (?) and literacy that most Americans have compared to us dumb Aussies have but I ask this: where’s preedyisadumbarse when you need him…?

]]> By: what http://atheists.org/blog/2007/04/17/title_17/comment-page-1#comment-57395 what Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-57395 Aussie<br /> <br /> "Those that have'nt been caught fucking alter boys that is"<br /> <br /> One of the primary utilities of religion is that it offers a place where sociopaths can hide in the open. Typically the sociopath works their way into a religious community by using religious language only (its amazing that talk is all that is needed to win their confidence) and once "inside" uses the congregation as a human shield against the prying eyes of law enforcement and the public at large.<br /> <br /> Now. What's Phreeky Phreedy's sociopathic compulsion? Care to venture a guess or two?<br /> I think that he is roughing up hookers in the evening and is working his way up to a Ted Bundy style killing spree. Aussie

“Those that have’nt been caught fucking alter boys that is”

One of the primary utilities of religion is that it offers a place where sociopaths can hide in the open. Typically the sociopath works their way into a religious community by using religious language only (its amazing that talk is all that is needed to win their confidence) and once “inside” uses the congregation as a human shield against the prying eyes of law enforcement and the public at large.

Now. What’s Phreeky Phreedy’s sociopathic compulsion? Care to venture a guess or two?
I think that he is roughing up hookers in the evening and is working his way up to a Ted Bundy style killing spree.

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