Comments on: Press release: Cross Victory http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/21/press_release_cross_victory A Blog of Atheist Thought Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:23:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: charlie http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/21/press_release_cross_victory/comment-page-1#comment-56205 charlie Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-56205 Those mean old Atheist are at it again....the next thing ya know they'll want to continue to try to block Gods of all The Ridiculous Superstitious Variety from being amended into the US Constitution....Geesh Those mean old Atheist are at it again….the next thing ya know they’ll want to continue to try to block Gods of all The Ridiculous Superstitious Variety from being amended into the US Constitution….Geesh

]]> By: DD Dropout http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/21/press_release_cross_victory/comment-page-1#comment-56206 DD Dropout Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-56206 We're just trying to help them save money on maintenance and energy costs. We’re just trying to help them save money on maintenance and energy costs.

]]> By: reason http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/21/press_release_cross_victory/comment-page-1#comment-56208 reason Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-56208 it seems to me the focus should be on changing state constitutions that<br /> discriminate against atheists.the cross is a historical symbol no need to get worked up besides most towns in united states where founded by people who belonged to a church.we don't have to wipeout the nations christian heritage to ensure civil rights for atheists. it seems to me the focus should be on changing state constitutions that
discriminate against atheists.the cross is a historical symbol no need to get worked up besides most towns in united states where founded by people who belonged to a church.we don’t have to wipeout the nations christian heritage to ensure civil rights for atheists.

]]> By: reason http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/21/press_release_cross_victory/comment-page-1#comment-56209 reason Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-56209 so i'm not misunderstood i think american atheists are good guys i just don't see a cross on top a water tank as a danger. so i’m not misunderstood i think american atheists are good guys i just don’t see a cross on top a water tank as a danger.

]]> By: Celebrant Prince http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/21/press_release_cross_victory/comment-page-1#comment-56212 Celebrant Prince Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-56212 "We're s'posed to have church and state separation<br /> <br /> "But TV preachers say 'this is a Christian nation<br /> <br /> 'You Muslims, you Hindus, you atheists, you Jews<br /> <br /> 'You're all un-American in our estimation'"<br /> <br /> -- from a song I (Forrest Prince)wrote.<br /> <br /> So, reason, you can't see any difference between putting a cross, the unmistakable insignia of the Christian religion and the Christian religion ALONE, on the top of a city-owned ["municipal"] water tower and the top of the state Capitol building?<br /> <br /> I hope not, because there isn't one.<br /> <br /> But, apparently, it'd be just hunky-dory with you if you looked out your window one day to see just that: a massive cross (say, 100 feet tall, or so) on the top of your state Capitol building? Or, maybe, on the top of the White House?<br /> <br /> Get a grip, friend. “We’re s’posed to have church and state separation

“But TV preachers say ‘this is a Christian nation

‘You Muslims, you Hindus, you atheists, you Jews

‘You’re all un-American in our estimation’”

– from a song I (Forrest Prince)wrote.

So, reason, you can’t see any difference between putting a cross, the unmistakable insignia of the Christian religion and the Christian religion ALONE, on the top of a city-owned ["municipal"] water tower and the top of the state Capitol building?

I hope not, because there isn’t one.

But, apparently, it’d be just hunky-dory with you if you looked out your window one day to see just that: a massive cross (say, 100 feet tall, or so) on the top of your state Capitol building? Or, maybe, on the top of the White House?

Get a grip, friend.

]]> By: reason http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/21/press_release_cross_victory/comment-page-1#comment-56214 reason Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-56214 prince we cannot pretend that religion did not play a role in the nations history/culture.<br /> what is more important to you a cross on top of a water tower or a state constituition that says you aren't good enough to hold office or testify as a witness.we have to focus on what is the biggest danger to us. prince we cannot pretend that religion did not play a role in the nations history/culture.
what is more important to you a cross on top of a water tower or a state constituition that says you aren’t good enough to hold office or testify as a witness.we have to focus on what is the biggest danger to us.

]]> By: Apple_Christmas http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/21/press_release_cross_victory/comment-page-1#comment-56215 Apple_Christmas Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-56215 reason:<br /> <blockquote>what is more important to you a cross on top of a water tower or a state constituition that says you aren't good enough to hold office or testify as a witness.we have to focus on what is the biggest danger to us.</blockquote><br /> I know there are a lot of states that have weird laws against sodomy, and dancing on Sunday, and wearing skirts above the knee, etc., etc.. Everyone knows they are anachonisms and they are never actually enforced. My question is: does anyone know how often the god-clauses in these state constitutions actually come into play? I know they have in the past, but are they still enforced? I don't know the answer; I'm honestly just curious.<br /> <br /> I do want to make clear though that even if they are never enforced anymore I do think it would be a good idea to get rid of them, for obvious reasons.<br /> <br /> As for crosses on water tanks... I do think it's worthwhile to make a cause of these public displays. Imagine children growing up in a culture that takes it for granted that the government does not get involved in religion. Wouldn't that be a great thing? By eliminating these everyday reminders, we're helping to do just that. reason:

what is more important to you a cross on top of a water tower or a state constituition that says you aren’t good enough to hold office or testify as a witness.we have to focus on what is the biggest danger to us.

I know there are a lot of states that have weird laws against sodomy, and dancing on Sunday, and wearing skirts above the knee, etc., etc.. Everyone knows they are anachonisms and they are never actually enforced. My question is: does anyone know how often the god-clauses in these state constitutions actually come into play? I know they have in the past, but are they still enforced? I don’t know the answer; I’m honestly just curious.

I do want to make clear though that even if they are never enforced anymore I do think it would be a good idea to get rid of them, for obvious reasons.

As for crosses on water tanks… I do think it’s worthwhile to make a cause of these public displays. Imagine children growing up in a culture that takes it for granted that the government does not get involved in religion. Wouldn’t that be a great thing? By eliminating these everyday reminders, we’re helping to do just that.

]]> By: FlyingWeasel http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/21/press_release_cross_victory/comment-page-1#comment-56219 FlyingWeasel Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-56219 I know, sometimes these things seem awfully petty... but it's neccesary to conserve every inch we can of the wall of church/state separation.<br /> <br /> because if we give them an inch, they take a mile.<br /> <br /> there should be some action taken to get the anti-atheist language and anachronistic laws taken out of state constitutions. I know, sometimes these things seem awfully petty… but it’s neccesary to conserve every inch we can of the wall of church/state separation.

because if we give them an inch, they take a mile.

there should be some action taken to get the anti-atheist language and anachronistic laws taken out of state constitutions.

]]> By: leestein http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/21/press_release_cross_victory/comment-page-1#comment-56220 leestein Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-56220 If the symbol on the water tower had been an Islamic star and crescent symbol, there would have been no controversy about removing it, I'm sure<br /> <br /> If the symbol on the water tower had been an Islamic star and crescent symbol, there would have been no controversy about removing it, I’m sure

]]> By: hominid http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/21/press_release_cross_victory/comment-page-1#comment-56221 hominid Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-56221 I wouldn't mind seeing emotionally charged symbols fall like Husseins statue of their own dead weight. I wouldn’t mind seeing emotionally charged symbols fall like Husseins statue of their own dead weight.

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