Comments on: NAE RejectsTorture, Still Loves Bush Though http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/14/nea_rejectstorture_still_loves_bush_thou A Blog of Atheist Thought Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:05:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: rna2dna http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/14/nea_rejectstorture_still_loves_bush_thou/comment-page-1#comment-55823 rna2dna Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-55823 That would be NAE?<br /> (National Association of Evangelicals)<br /> <br /> Thanks for the correction.<br /> PN That would be NAE?
(National Association of Evangelicals)

Thanks for the correction.
PN

]]> By: rna2dna http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/14/nea_rejectstorture_still_loves_bush_thou/comment-page-1#comment-55828 rna2dna Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-55828 Fundies, does The National Association of Evangelicals endorsed anti-torture statement, mean that you will need to be changing your opinions on torture? If so, why the hell do you need someone else to tell you that torture is wrong? Goddamit!<br /> <br /> From the article:<br /> <blockquote>"As American Christians, we are above all motivated by a desire that our nation's actions would be consistent with foundational Christian moral norms,"</blockquote><br /> If there are "foundational Christian moral norms" why didn't they make this statement four years ago? What are the "foundational Christian moral norms"? Maybe something like; torture is good unless your fundy leaders specifically say, what you are doing in this specific case is wrong.<br /> <br /> And continuing:<br /> <blockquote>the document says. "We believe that a scrupulous commitment to human rights, among which is the right not to be tortured, is one of these Christian moral convictions."</blockquote><br /> "We believe"??? So they aren't really sure about it but, are thinking maybe torture in this case might possibly not be in line with "Christian moral convictions". The christian god idea didn't even tell them what the "Christian moral convictions" are?<br /> <br /> Goddam "W" christian idiots. A christian nation is a stupid nation. Fundies, does The National Association of Evangelicals endorsed anti-torture statement, mean that you will need to be changing your opinions on torture? If so, why the hell do you need someone else to tell you that torture is wrong? Goddamit!

From the article:

“As American Christians, we are above all motivated by a desire that our nation’s actions would be consistent with foundational Christian moral norms,”

If there are “foundational Christian moral norms” why didn’t they make this statement four years ago? What are the “foundational Christian moral norms”? Maybe something like; torture is good unless your fundy leaders specifically say, what you are doing in this specific case is wrong.

And continuing:

the document says. “We believe that a scrupulous commitment to human rights, among which is the right not to be tortured, is one of these Christian moral convictions.”

“We believe”??? So they aren’t really sure about it but, are thinking maybe torture in this case might possibly not be in line with “Christian moral convictions”. The christian god idea didn’t even tell them what the “Christian moral convictions” are?

Goddam “W” christian idiots. A christian nation is a stupid nation.

]]> By: fathead http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/14/nea_rejectstorture_still_loves_bush_thou/comment-page-1#comment-55832 fathead Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-55832 A day late and a dollar short.<br /> <br /> These idiots were too gutless to criticize these atrocities during the several years when they were being touted as essential by the present administration. Now, as their political leaders become lame ducks or exit the scene, they want to jump on the world-wide anti-torture bandwagon, claiming that these acts are now (have become?) unacceptable to any right-thinking Christian.<br /> <br /> I wouldn't expect these new-found moral convictions to last long given that these NAE types are of a like mind with those who previously brought us the Spanish inquisition.<br /> <br /> Given the authority and means to do so, they would gladly put all of us atheists in a similar prison and run it just like Abu Ghraib for the well-being of our immortal souls.<br /> <br /> A day late and a dollar short.

These idiots were too gutless to criticize these atrocities during the several years when they were being touted as essential by the present administration. Now, as their political leaders become lame ducks or exit the scene, they want to jump on the world-wide anti-torture bandwagon, claiming that these acts are now (have become?) unacceptable to any right-thinking Christian.

I wouldn’t expect these new-found moral convictions to last long given that these NAE types are of a like mind with those who previously brought us the Spanish inquisition.

Given the authority and means to do so, they would gladly put all of us atheists in a similar prison and run it just like Abu Ghraib for the well-being of our immortal souls.

]]> By: alexatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/14/nea_rejectstorture_still_loves_bush_thou/comment-page-1#comment-55833 alexatheist Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-55833 Republicans support Newt Gingrich (married three times and an adulterer), Rush Limbaugh (drug addict), and Ann Coulter (unmarried chain-smoking alcohol guzzling childless career-minded woman). Republicans ignore their "values" when it's inconvenient. Republicans support Newt Gingrich (married three times and an adulterer), Rush Limbaugh (drug addict), and Ann Coulter (unmarried chain-smoking alcohol guzzling childless career-minded woman). Republicans ignore their “values” when it’s inconvenient.

]]> By: Christopher Bradley http://atheists.org/blog/2007/03/14/nea_rejectstorture_still_loves_bush_thou/comment-page-1#comment-55834 Christopher Bradley Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-55834 Like a lot of people here, I'm not terribly surprised at this. Heck, I'll one up you -- it's not only hypocrisy to support Bush, it's hypocrisy to support the system that put guys like Bush and Reagan in power in the first place. It's hypocritical to go into your churches and worship "the prince of peace" and then come out and consistently vote Republican (which, overwhelmingly, committed Christians in America do) who just love huge military budgets and all manner for foreign wars and intrigues. Bush is horrible, yeah, but he's also just a symptom of the problem that clutched at the heart of the Republican Party's fundamentalist base. Like a lot of people here, I’m not terribly surprised at this. Heck, I’ll one up you — it’s not only hypocrisy to support Bush, it’s hypocrisy to support the system that put guys like Bush and Reagan in power in the first place. It’s hypocritical to go into your churches and worship “the prince of peace” and then come out and consistently vote Republican (which, overwhelmingly, committed Christians in America do) who just love huge military budgets and all manner for foreign wars and intrigues. Bush is horrible, yeah, but he’s also just a symptom of the problem that clutched at the heart of the Republican Party’s fundamentalist base.

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