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Hello 2007!

Hope you all had a great New Year!In the spirit of changing the future, many people look to the past. I look at the present. Here’s what I see:1) Atheism is definitely taking a positive turn as religion takes a negative2) A quick scan of the H. Clinton, Obama, and Edwards web site yields NO COMMENTS on the need for the separation of Church and State. Even on their “issues” pages, religious equality and C/S separation are NEVER MENTIONEDFolks, the Separation of Church and State is not a single issue. It goes far beyond voucher schemes and Intelligent Design. Abortion, Gay rights, Stem Cell research, and Dealth With Dignity are all examples of religious institutions telling other people what to do. Our common foes like to divide the issue into subsects because it gives them many fronts on which to fight. Up until now, they have succeeded, to the detriment of our society.We need to reunify Church and State Separation, and improve the face of politics. The timing seems perfect — the momentum is ours to ride.If you’ve never fought HARD for our side, now is a great time to start. 1) NOW is the time to come out. Your coworkers and family have mostly heard about Atheism in the past few months, and they certainly heard about the Haggard and Foley scandals. You are justified to reject the mythologies of yesteryear!2) When asked, always tell people that the Separation of Church and State is your primary issue. Don’t let them subdivide it into smaller issues (which have enough momentum and support that they don’t need our help). Stick to your guns — C/S separation is the cornerstone of religious liberty, and everyone needs to know it!3) CALL the presidential hopefuls (all of them), and ask what their stance is. It doesn’t matter what they answer — they need to know it’s an isue.4) Write to your local papers. We need to MAKE this an issue for the next race!The timing is perfect — it’s what we’ve been waiting for. The question is what will you, personally, do about it? Will you let this opportunity pass, or capitalize on it with vigor?Individuals CAN make a difference in this environment!I’ve made a new years resolution to redouble my efforts in politics. The past is an educational tool and tells you what needs to be done, but the present tells you when to pull the trigger.Bang.

68 Responses to “Hello 2007!”

  1. avatar reluctantatheist says:

    karen:

    Is it a separate entity or not? Are you saying that we are all connected by our thoughts? How is “conscious thought as evident and existent in animals and humans ” not something that would die with the animal/human containing it?

    Ooh, nice catch on the contradiction. I missed it.
    LBC is reifying right ‘n left.

    LBC:

    Everyone is designed with the knowledge of God inside us. How each person responds to this is different. Some choose to deny him, as evident in this forum, and define their belief system on the non-existence of something. Either God is real and requires the ultimate attention or God is not real and requires no attention at all. Atheism believes God is not real and still gives him a lot of attention – an intriguing paradox!

    Well, truthfully, the only reason this goes on, is that
    A. We’re pretty much sick & tired of you clowns trying to run our lives for us, &
    B. You people lost your free pass when those jets hit the WTC.
    Religious behavior is demonstrably dangerous, it’s irrational, & besides, if gawd’s prophesied a bunch of events to come about, y’all should sit on your hands & wait it out.
    The next time you want to blather on about how evolution’s a ‘matter of faith’, think on these items:
    A. Evolution is the backbone of biology. If it didn’t work, we wouldn’t have such a variety of crops, medicines, CSI labs, & a # of other perks it gives us.
    B. Prior to Darwin, 100% of the scientists believed in creation. The populace is now down to about 1%, & failing rapidly.
    I don’t count Dembski, Behe, or Morris among those worthies.
    & spare me your parroted recitation of the Goldilocks effect.

  2. avatar rna2dna says:

    Letsbeclear wrote:

    One such proof of the impossibility of evolution is as follws (copied from website).

    Nice attribution, I am sure the author is impressed. Did you learn that from babble school?

    It is difficult to know the exact conditions on and surrounding the early earth which was after all and obviously billions of years ago. However, there is no doubt that the atmosphere was not the same as it is today. So your source, which you hide so effectively, is really starting from the wrong side of the model and then jumping to conclusions at the other side of the model.

    There is probably one bit of useful information there, which is that the conditions under which the first life on earth evolved were very harsh conditions. That is probably why it took several hundred thousand years to occur. I am sure you will agree it is not surprising the oceans would surely have provided a more stable environment for life to begin its long journey of evolution.

    Evolution is a very interesting reality, your “soul” would be happy if you spent some time studying it. Earlier in this thread I made a statement about a rat turning into a pigeon, well I assumed that you would understand I was joking, of course a rat can not turn into a pigeon. However, apparently you assumed that I was serious. That is very sad, I feel sorry for you. By holding on to a very obviously flawed belief you are missing out on a lot of truly amazing knowledge.

    By holding on to christian beliefs that originated two thousand years ago, when the conditions for life were quite different than they are today, you are endangering human life and possibly most life on our lovely planet.

    Most christians are very self centered only caring about how they will be perceived in a mythical “after life”. At the time the bible was created those ideas were not so destructive as they are today, it was a different time and place.

    So I will encourage you to but down your bible. Take a look around, try to understand reality. Spend some time studying evolution so that you have an understanding of what life is.

    The bible was written two thousand years ago, you cannot expect the conditions of life today to be the same. Please stop your dangerous and destructive belief in mythology.

  3. avatar reluctantatheist says:

    rna2dna:

    So your source, which you hide so effectively, is really starting from the wrong side of the model and then jumping to conclusions at the other side of the model.

    I really like that description. The entry into a model is an incorrect 1.
    I’m still just shaking my head, over the DNA/court example.
    That’s just about the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
    Never did get to hear LBC’s ‘proof of gawd’. No doubt, it was something along the lines of the complexity of a single cell/watchmaker theory.
    Sometimes I really wish these folks would do some research prior to opening their mouths.

  4. avatar afollowerofChrist says:

    All flesh is grass, and all is loveliness is like te floer of the field. The grass withers, the flower fades, when te breath of the Lord blows upon it; surely the people are like grass. The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God stands forever.

  5. avatar Seeker says:

    Ignore this entry; trying to post a pic.

  6. avatar Seeker says:

    Ignore this entry; trying to post a pic.

  7. avatar Rozmarija says:

    ABC-TV once again spouted flames against atheism by opening a segment on Sunday, 4th March by stating extremist atheists want to ‘get rid of God’. All we really want is to bring back the Constitution, Ammendments, and Bill of Rights and firm up the SEPARATION of Church and State.I’d feel safer if certain people DID continue to fear hell fire and Divine retribution ! There’s too much religion in public life at taxpayer expense.

  8. avatar EdJones says:

    Interesting point of views. Here’s another interesting thing you should check out. Ben Stein is putting out a new movie that is trying to promote teaching creationism in schools. It’s called Expelled… check out the website. http://www.expelledthemovie.com

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