This is stupid, and totally off topic (and my opinion), but I’m going to vent about it anyway.Nigger is a word. Like kike and chink and faggot, it’s a word of hate and ignorance. But it’s just a word.I’m just sickened by the concept that some people are trying to “wipe the word out” by stopping people from using it. It’s a stupid idea that will never succeed. And it shouldn’t. Listen, world, banning a word won’t defeat prejudice, it will worsen it. It will send it underground and breed a segregationistic attitude. If people use it in a hateful context (a la Michael Richards), you learn something about that person, an improtant detail about the user’s attitude. If people censor the word, you lose that identifier.And by the way, there IS such a thing as using a hateful word in a non-hateful context. I have no problem using “nigger” in such sentences as “I don’t associate with people who use the word ‘nigger’”.In fact, it’s childish to use “the N word”. What are we afraid of — saying a word? It’s just a word, and I am not afraid of words. In fact, I have a lower opinion of people who use “the n-word” (or “the k-word”, or “the f-word”) than I do of people who use the terms themselves in non-hateful contexts. That doesn’t make me a bigot — it makes me an adult.Is this something I “just don’t get”?
There is a good poet/rap/music group called The Watts Prophets.
Their best album is “When the 90′s Came”. On it is the song “i’ll stop calling you niggaz”.
“I ain’t mad at whitey, I am mad at you, you low-down niggaz.”
“i’ll stop calling you niggaz when you start acting like black men.”
A documentary on the Watts Prophets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISUoTJaXVBQ
I say every one should hate all other people equally then this would all go away.
STOP being so divisive with your bigotry. Freedom of speech, separation of church and state. Right to “Bear” arms, Rosa-Parks Bus Holocaust, and the extermination of the Jew hating gentiles should be a priority for us all.
As soul-less matured fetus’ together we should ban together and make our “voices” known, and if you live in certain states your “concealed hand guns”!! If we can all just agree that morality is a fascist philosophy that scrutinizes our individual ideas and privileges. Soon we can take over the world and make it the way it should be: a tolerant place where all sorts of crimes and atrocities are upheld and embraced. We are the enlightened ones who know the real truth in this depraved, idiotic World!!
Come on whose with me, seriously. Unless you are religious because you are all getting way to inclusive as the millennium goes. Your acceptance of people everywhere and increasing ideas about life and unity are really sickening. If you continue to develop and become even more accepting of people in their “sin” we are gonna do something radical. I mean something that has never been done before!! …I know we’ll stake you up on a tree with some huge screws until you suffocate to death, and if it takes to long we’ll break your legs! Yeah. It may sound like no big deal but something tells me it will be torturous suffering. We’ll probably beat you a bit before hand for good measure too.
What a brilliant plan to keep the world free of the crap that clutters up living. You know, people that think and act based on conviction. Hopefully soon we will be what we should have been all along, a society that is mechanical and completely rational in thought and deed. If I’m lying I’m dying!!
Do what ever you need to become the ruler of your domain, that’s how it should be with our true ideas of self first, then offspring that can conquer others and last self again.
Humanists HO!
won2have
I think you mixed your characterizations there with your middle paragraph…
and are you calling me a HO? hehheh.
Note* I reserve the right to be a ho if it helps me to become the ruler of my domain.
I mixed up my what, in my where?
No, no that’s pretty close to right, i think? Maybe i meant Christians only. Religious folks is a broad generalization and i know how exact we have to be as rational thinkers here, no generalized stereotyping what so ever on this blog!
Its only the Christians that i hate. Especially the ones who exhibit “love” to others so openly. It is true they are only doing what their scriptures teach, but i for one am sick of it. Who needs a world full of people willing to lay their lives down for strangers or worse enemies. I am going to get a petition going for the abolition of man.
Just one stupid idea they teach is abstinence until marriage. Pfft! Look if “God” did create sex between a man and a woman in “garden” then he must not have known what he was doing. Who wants to marry “a” man or “a” woman that has waited until marriage, for their spouse, to express the deepest physical and emotional bond we humans can taste. I mean they act like it is almost spiritual. What a bunch of crap that has got to be!! I need a woman who has slept around a bit. She has to know that i am or am not the best she has ever had, so she can go find the best and then procreate with that guy. It seems fair and logical since our gospel of evolution is obviously the absolute truth. I mean come on people!! You guys are killing me here!
So yes, you should be a HO Karen. Congratulations, unless you waited until marriage. In that case shame on you.
i did it! i spoke in both sarcasm and truth at the same time! Hooray!!
AS A BLACK, BISEXUAL, ATHEIST WOMAN IN A WHELCHAIR, THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION IS RATHER HUMOROUS TO ME. I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE DISCRIMINATION OF BEING IN SEVERAL MINORITY GROUPS AND I LIVE IN THE RACIALLY HOSTILE BIBLE BELT OF GEORGIA. HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THE MAJORITY OF WHITE PEOPLE SO EASILY AND SUMMARILY DISMISS THE LEGITIMACY OF THE LEGACY OF PAIN AND SUFFERING THE WORD NIGGER HAS ON BLACK PEOPLE? IT IS ARROGANT THAT ONE WOULD EVEN CONSIDER YOURSELF AN ADEQUATE JUDGE OF THE SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT OF RACIAL HOSTILITY IN AMERICA TODAY. I WOULD NOT TELL NATIVE AMERICANS THAT EVEN THOUGH AMERICA WAS STOLEN FROM THEM AND THEN THEY WERE CARTED OFF TO RESERVATIONS AND ISOLATED IN AN APARTHEID TYPE PROCESS, THAT THEY HAVE A FEW TOKEN GAMBLING INSTITUTIONS AND SHOULD BE SATISFIED. I WOULD NEVER THINK OF MYSELF AS AN AUTHORITY ON WHETHER THE JEWS SHOULD BE HEALED OVER THE EFFECTS OF THE HOLOCAUST AND NOT SHIVER AT THE SIGHT OF THE SWASTIKA. I WOULD NOT DARE TELL A MALE SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIM WHEN HE SHOULD GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON. I WOULD NOT DARE TELL SOMEONE WHO LOST A PARENT IN DEATH WHEN TO GET OVER GRIEVING. IMAGINE FANATICAL CHRISTIANS DEMANDING THAT ATHEISTS STOP BITCHING ABOUT THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS BEING VIOLATED BY THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY. TO DO SO WOULD BE AT BEST, INSENSITIVE. WHITE PEOPLE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF NOT BEING INDIVIDUALLY TARGETED AND AFFECTED BY BEING THE VICTIM OF SYSTEMATIC RACISM.
IF WE ALL ARE ATHEISTS LET ME EXPLAIN THIS USING A COMMON EXPERIENCE. IMAGINE IF STARTING A FEW HUNDRED YEARS AGO, THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT DECLARED THAT ALL ATHEISTS AND THEIR DESCENDANTS WERE TO BE CALLED NIGGERS, CONSIDERED TO BE BEASTS OF BURDEN, INELIGIBLE FOR EVEN THE COMPASSION WE OFFER OUR HOUSEHOLD PETS AND SIMPLY WORKED TO THE DEATH FOR NO WAGES. IMAGINE HAVING YOUR LOVED ONES BRUTALLY RAPED, BEATEN, HUMILIATED, KILLED, MUTILATED, DENIED ANY LEGAL RECOURSE, PREVENTED FROM RECEIVING AN EDUCATION AND MADE TO FEEL INFERIOR PHYSICALLY AND INTELLECTUALLY. NOW IMAGINE THAT WHILE ALL BELIEVERS IN GOD WERE GROWING RICH FROM EXPLOITING ATHEISTS, ATHEISTS THEMSELVES WERE TRYING TO SIMPLY SURVIVE, MAINTAIN A SHRED OF HOPE, TRY NOT TO HATE THEIR OPPRESSORS AND ESCAPE/TRANSCEND THIS SYSTEM. WHAT IF THE ATHEIST ENSLAVEMENT SYSTEM THAT WAS CREATED WAS KEPT IN EFFECT FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS AND THEN, EVEN AFTER IT WAS ABOLISHED, THE DISCRIMINATION THAT HELPED CREATE IT WAS STILL PRESENT, EVEN THOUGH OPPORTUNITES GRADUALLY BECAME AVAILABLE TO ATHEISTS OVER SEVERAL HUNDREDS YEARS? THEN, IMAGINE IF YOU WERE EXPECTED TO ACT AS IF THESE MEMORIES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE PRETTY MUCH FORGOTTEN, ALL OF THE STORIES OF YOUR GRANDPARENTS AND THE ATHEIST-ENSLAVEMENT SYSTEM DISMISSED. IMAGINE IF EVERY TIME THE WORD NIGGER WAS SHOUTED YOU HAD A FLASHBACK OF SEEING FELLOW ATHEISTS TORTURED AND KILLED. IMAGINE THAT THE DESCENDANTS OF THE RELIGIOUS ORIGINAL SYSTEM WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE USE OF THE WORD NIGGER AND THE FACT THAT IT IS JUST A WORD AND YOU SHOULD JUST GET OVER IT. PERHAPS YOU MAY NOT FEEL THAT THE WORD WAS AS NON-EMOTIONAL AS THE OTHER GROUP FELT. IT MIGHT EVEN MAKE YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, MISUNDERSTOOD AND MARGINAL. YOU MAY FEEL HESITANT ABOUT GOING INTO DEPTH WITH THEM ABOUT YOUR OPINIONS, BECAUSE THEY HADN’T EVEN GRASPED THE SIGNIFICANCE ON A SUPERFICIAL LEVEL. PERHAPS YOU WOULD FEEL ALONE IN A GROUP OF PEOPLE YOU THOUGHT HAD EVOLVED INTO COMPASSIONATE AND SENSITIVE. YOU MIGHT EVEN FEEL LIKE I DO NOW, DISAPPOINTED.
IT IS VERY DISHEARTENING FOR ME TO BE AN ATHEIST AND NOT KNOW ONE OTHER BLACK ATHEIST IN A MOSTLY BLACK CULTURE THAT VERY EFFECTIVELY OSTRACIZES ALL FREE THINKERS. I MUSTER UP THE STRENGTH TO REMAIN VIGILANT AND FIND OTHER SIMILAR MINDED PEOPLE AND CHANCE UPON THIS DISCUSSION. MANY ATHEISTS I KNOW TEND TO BE MORE “ENLIGHTENED” AND HUMANISTIC THAN THEIR RELIGIOUS COUNTERPARTS. BEING ATHEIST GIVES ONE THE UNIQUE EXPERIENCE OF BEING IN A GROUP THAT IS A “MINORITY”, GENERALLY DESPISED, POLITICALLY AND FINANCIALLY UNDERREPRESENTED, LARGELY DISRESPECTED AND IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, COMPLETELY ELIMINATED FROM THE WORLD OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY THOSE LOVING GOD FOLKS. BROTHERS AND SISTERS, PLEASE USE YOUR ABILITIES TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AND EVEN TO CREATE A NEW SHAPE ALTOGETHER. JUST BECAUSE WE DON’T ALL SHARE A SPECIFIC EXPERIENCE, CAN WE NOT USE OUR POWERS OF REASONING AND SHARPENED CREATIVITY TO IMAGINE WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE ANOTHER GROUP?
WITH REGARDS TO BANISHING THE WORD NIGGER, PERSONALLY, I FEEL THAT IT IS UNREALISTIC BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE WORD TO INJURE OTHERS WOULD BE JUST AS LIKELY TO HAVE THE SAME ATTITUDE ABOUT BLACKS IF WE WERE CALLED BY ANY OTHER NAME. THEY WOULD FIGHT FOR THEIR RIGHT TO USE IT AND DURING THE STRUGGLE FOR THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, WHICH WE ALL WANT TO PRESERVE, THEIR FEELINGS OF FRUSTRATION WOULD BREED MORE RACIAL TENSION. IT WOULD BE LIKE TERRORIST CELLS, SPLINTERING OFF INTO A VARIETY OF BRANCHES. IN REGARDS TO BLACK PEOPLE CALLING EACH OTHER NIGGERS, THAT, TO ME, IS A CHOICE THAT EVERY BLACK PERSON HAS TO MAKE AND THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE CHOICES. I AM A WOMAN AND WHEN A WOMAN CALLS ME A BITCH, IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHEN A MAN CALLS ME ONE. I AM FAT, SO IF ANOTHER FAT PERSON REFERS TO MY SIZE OR AFFECTIONATELY CALLS ME BIG GAL, IT WOULD NOT FEEL THE SAME AS A SUPERMODEL CALLING ME DISGUSTINGLY FAT. IF ONE ATHEIST AFFECTIONATELY CALLS ANOTHER ONE “ANGRY MILITANT ATHEIST”, WOULD THAT NOT BE DIFFERENT THAN IF A CHRISTIAN PREACHER CALLED YOU ONE? REMOVING THE MATERIAL WORD FROM EXISTENCE, BUT NOT EDUCATING THE MASSES ON THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT AND IMPLICATION OF THE WORD, ALSO REMOVES THE BROADER LESSON OF CULTURAL SENSITIVITY.
THIS DISCUSSION SEEMS TO MISS THE BIGGER ISSUE BY ARGUING OVER SEMANTICS. THINK BEFORE YOU FORMULATE SUCH CUT AND DRY SUMMATIONS. MY RANT IS NOT AIMED AT ALL OF THE MEMBERS WHO POSTED, JUST SOME. MANY GOOD POINTS WERE MADE AND THE ONE ITALIAN COMMENTER COULDN’T HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO HITTING THE TARGET OF HOW I FEEL AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN IF HE USED A HAMMER.
THERE IS OFTEN A QUESTION OF WHY THERE ARE SO FEW BLACK ATHEISTS? WHILE THE ANSWERS ARE NUMEROUS, I FEEL THAT FOR THE MOST PART, AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE ASKED TO MAKE A CHOICE…HIDE THEIR IDENTITIES TO RECEIVE THE FAMILIARITY OF THEIR SHARED AFRICAN-AMERICAN EXPERIENCE OR BE BANISHED AND THROW IN THEIR LOTS WITH A LARGELY WHITE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE VERY LITTLE EMPATHY FOR THE VERY REAL CULTURE AND UNIQUE PLIGHT OF THE EXPERIENCES OF BLACK PEOPLE. THIS DECISION IS OFTEN TOO HIGH A PRICE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE COIN. I CHOOSE TO BE A MYTHICAL CREATURE, THE “BLACK ATHEIST” WITH A DUALITY AS BOTH BLACK ANDDDDDDDDD ATHEIST AND RECONCILING THIS TUG OF WAR IS ENOUGH TO DRIVE ONE TO DRINK! PEACE TO ALL OF YOU!
REGARDING MICHAEL RICHARDS, WHAT AN IDIOT. I MEAN, EVEN IF HE MEANT EVERY WORD HE SAID, HE REALLY PAID WITH HIS WHOLE PROFESSIONAL REPUTATION TO GET REVENGE ON HECKLERS. I HOPE HE FEELS LIKE IT WAS WORTH IT. HE NOT ONLY USED THE WORD NIGGER DOZENS OF TIMES, HE ALSO HISTORICALLY REFERENCED THE CASUAL CATEGORICAL TORTURING OF AFRICAN AMERICANS ONLY 50 YEARS AGO WITH PITCHFORKS, LYNCHINGS, ETC. MR. RICHARDS ALSO REFERENCED THE CONSEQUENCES A NIGGER WOULD HAVE TO PAY TO A WHITE MAN. I THOUGHT TO MYSELF THAT HE MUST HAVE BEEN ON A GOOD COCKTAIL OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL TO EVEN THINK THAT HIS SAFETY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AT RISK IN THAT CROWD. WHAT A FOOL! I FEEL VERY SATISFIED THAT HE WILL REAP THE RESULTS OF HIS HATRED, CONSEQUENCES.
HATS OFF TO YOU MR. RICHARD, YOU HAVE SUCCESSFULLY CUT OFF YOUR NOSE TO SPITE YOUR FACE, NOT TO MENTION DAMAGING YOUR CAREER IN THE PROCESS!
INTRODUCING THE BENEDICT ARNOLD LIST
United Voices for a Common Cause, Inc. presents its Benedict Arnold list for those Blacks who insist on publicly using the n-word including Daman Wayans.
PURPOSE: No longer is it acceptable to trample upon the memories and honor of those who were tarred and feathered, burnt alive, castrated, hung, boiled alive, sodomized and tortured with hot instruments, disemboweled, unmercifully tortured in countless numbers of other ways, all in the name of the n-word simply because since the victims were considered to be a n***er it was okay to perform such atrocious, despicable acts. And yet as evil and heinous as these acts were there is something that transcends it and that is descendants of these canonized victims taking the word n***er and embracing it with tender loving care and using it endearingly and affectionately among them. How idiotic and moronic can this possibly be?
ELIGIBILILTY REQUIREMENTS: Consideration to be placed on the Benedict Arnold list is as follows: Blatantly showing by act and deeds a determination to undermine the African American community with a defiant public display and intent to use and promote usage of a word that is disrespectful, dishonorable to the memories of those who suffered physically, mentally and emotionally?the n-word.
Qualifiers of the Benedict Arnold list shall henceforth be looked upon as the village idiots of the community. To further clarify the criteria distinguishing who makes the list and who doesn?t among the proponents in favor of the word. It is not intended to try and nail everyone to the cross. It?s only when someone like a John Ridley or Daman Wayans who publicly?in a defiant, determined and perverse manner supports undermining the Black community by pledging allegiance to the n-word, then and only then will those names be added to the Benedict Arnold list.
In accordance with the aforementioned eligibility requirements the following have been found to be eligible to have their names placed on this list and why it is so moved.
JOHN RIDLEY as result of his verbal public defiance and insistence on referring to African Americans as the n-word and his writing of ?Manifesto of Ascendancy of the Modern American N***er ? is hereby placed on the Benedict Arnold list.
DAMAN WAYANS as a result of his verbal public defiance and insistence on referring to African Americans as the n-word and his attempts in trying and still trying, though he has been turned down time and time again to register the name nigga as a trademark to be used as a marketable item for a clothesline and other marketable items, is hereby placed on the Benedict Arnold list.
To learn more about United Voices for a Common Cause and to see how Paul Mooney is being recognized in a more positive fashion (he is the first inductee into the RICHARD PRYOR ROOM) please go to http://www.theunitedvoices.org.
you’re all ignorant fools! by “ignorant” i mean LACK KNOWLEDGE, i’m not insulting you by calling you stupid. Not many people know the true definition of ignorance just the same as not many people knowing why the “n” word is such an issue when said. Most people dont know or fail to realize or research the true background behind. Everyone always wants to speak about the ish they dont know. Well let me fill you uniformative people in. The “n” word goes back from generations and generations of beating and hangings and all sorts of punishment, basically attempting to eniale the black race. the “n” word is a hate crime. It’s not jus a word. If you only knew the pain and suffering people have gone through just because of what you call “A WORD”. But of course you would’nt understand, and you couldn’t fathom, because it’s out of your world, nothing you could have possible even thought of experiencing. Yes i agree, banning it will make it more powerful, only because people will feel rebellious making it more of an excuse to use it. Verbal abuse has a greater effect then physical abuse. So just “A WORD”? you’ve got to be freaking kinding me!! No curse words are justified; neither are correct when used. But do not compare the slaughtering of what is thought as an inferior race to that of the f word. Dont insult the African American community by all of your ignorance.
I don’t use the “n” not because i think it’s racist but because I am classy and only ghetto people would talk like that.
The fact of matter is black people are the ONLY people I have ever heard use that word and I find it offensive and I am white.
Most black comedians and “rappers” use a litany of foulness to make money by shocking people. Except in movies I have never even heard a white person utter that word so I think your anger needs to be directed at those you actually hear say the word.
I am interested in whether or not you think those black people should be charged with a hate crime?
If you believe black people cannot be charged how black do you have to be? 100% What about 25% any percentage black and it’s okay?
What is you look white because you are 25% black hate crime or no???
Perhaps you could become the grand judge of language and hate crimes.
I’m sorry the question should read:
What if you look white but you are 25% black, hate crime or no?
I would also point out, as a female, it is from these same black males that continuos sexism seeps out advocating violence and contempt for women.
Is that a hate crime as well? Referrring to females as hos or bitches? And “pimp slapping” them?
okay dawnisis! apparently you must live in Kansas or Jena, Louisiana or something where they ban black people from barbershops because if you have never heard another race besides African Americans sayin the “n” word to each other, you are completely inane and you have absolutely got to be kidding me!!the “n” word is said by everyone all over the place. And it’s not about who says it, i’m saying that no one should think its alright to say it no matter what race or color you are. African Americans say it too because of their ignorance, most of them probably don’t know the history behind it. Maybe you need to move around or something because its so obvious that you’re clueless.
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