In the newest vote for theocracy, Congress passed the PERA. This means that when the government breaks the law and pushes religion, the challengers cannot get reimbursements for their legal fees, even if they win. Of course, the converse is not true. Purely illegal and easily passed. Now we wait until we can challenge it at the Supreme Court level. Think they’ll be fair? I don’t.I’m pissed. This is pure crap, and it’s happening right before our eyes. Our rights were lessened today, and the Christians think it’s a good thing. So much for doing unto others…
Oops, I meant tp say, “I bet you broke your end of that little deal.”
Sorry guys, that whole thing just pissed me off.
seeinit
OK. Sorry, but we’re not going to go into the whole scientific theory vs run -of -the-mill theory debate. At least I’m not. That issue has been discussed ad nauseum on this and other blogs. You obviously don’t understand the difference.
As for your quaint story about asking for and meeting your wife, nice set of coincidences, with a little self-fulfilling prophecy built in.
What evidence do you have that god had anything to do with it?
I told my stuffed bunny rabbit that I wanted to get married, and I did. And it was long after my mom threw my bunny in the trash.
of course I broke the deal, thats what is so good about it. Even though I did not keep my end of the deal, it still happend. The bible teaches that though man chosses to do wrong, god keeps his end of the deal.
As far as self fulfiling, how did i have dreams about her for two months before she moved to my town? How did she come to work at my job, in a city of 1 million. How was it that this girl grew up in the same religion as me? How is it that my mom knew that she would make a good wife for me when I did not ask her anything about it, ever? Why would someone agree to marry someone just after she met them? How is it she and I are still best friends and still married 20 years later? I was asked a question and gave my answer and that is the truth.
I believe that a person can not become a true follower of the bible unless it is ment to be. I have seen friends grow up in church and hate it so just because a kid is so called brainwashed to believe in a god, does not mean they will. Just like friends I have that grew up and never heard of jesus or God until they come to America and now they read the bible every day.
Lets look at it from an evolution point of view or genetics which is common ground. Homosexuals are gentically made to be such, as science says, so is most drunks and drug attics. Now they thing fat people too. If those of us are genetically made to be able to see others in our dreams or heal through thought and some are genetically made to believe in a god of some sort. It is a losing cause to try to change us. Statistics show that the majority believe in a god of some sort so genetics are ruling and to fight it is to fight a loosing battle…
Either way, neither side will win, so finding common ground is the best way, not lashing out at someone because things happen that cant be explained by both sides. If I brain washed my kids then so do those who believe there is no god.
What I taught my kids about a god does not matter. What matters is that my daughter graduated highschool this year with already a year and a half of college. My two sons recieved awards last year for Honor Roll and perfect attendance. They respect their teachers and have the respect of their fellow students. I have never been called to school for them skipping, fighting or disrespecting other students or faculty.
We live in one of the poorest neighborhoods in our city. Our house cost us 15k(without govenment help)and we live about 7 blocks from the projects(low income appartments). Even though I did not finish school, my kids are. My kids are not a product of their environment as studies show they should have.
It is not If someone says they believe in a god, it is how they live and repsect others. Lashing out at someone because they believe differently is not a good way to treat someone. Treating people that believe in a god like that will only make things worst.
People that have a nature they can not control turn to a religion or god to help them deal with it. Forcing that type of person into their old nature is dangerous.
Funny how I was telling the truth and it braught out a nasty response. I was just stating my own experience and got attacked. Why was there no attemp at explaining the dreams or events that happened I had no control over. Why is it just always a lashing we mush take when we did nothing to hurt anyone else.
I am sorry for upsetting anyone here, I thought is was open dialog. Have a nice day and I am sorry again.
BTW we do not wear crosses or carry a bible in public as this is the way we raised our kids. One does not need a cross or bible to show they believe in a god but to do what is best for the other person though our nature begs us to do different.
We do not return violence for violence. We try to stay neutral but when asked we will answer with what we believe. Thank you for giving me time here.
seeinit
I did not attack you. And I do not see how I was nasty. What I said about my bunny is absolutely true.
The point is, you would have probably met your wife even without having made the request of god at 13.
The self-fulfilling parts come in where you had 7 days to ask her to marry you and for her to accept. Lots of people act that rashly. Most don’t do it to make a deal with god come to fruition. What if you had waited till the 8th day? What if she had made you wait till then to hear her answer? Would that have nullified it? Your mom accepted her, without knowing much about her. Some people just click. I thought the same about my son’s wife before he even thought about marrying her, but didn’t say anything to that effect. No god involved.
It’s coincidence that she ended up in your city, at your job. If not there, you may have met her somewhere else, at a later time. I see no significance at all that she is of the same religious sect.
As for your dreams, I can’t explain them. You’d have to provide more information about them anyway. Did you record them at the time? Is there any way to verify that what you might say now that you dreamed then-20 years ago-actually what you dreamed, or some romanticizing of what you thought you dreamed?
You attribute things to god, but have no proof that god had anything to do with it. Then you promote belief in that god based on your feelings that god has intervened in your life, with the inference or outright statement that god will intervene in others’ lives. This simply is not verifyable and can lead to tragedy. It is better to be self-reliant, than to hang your hopes on a dream.
You contradict yourself. What did you just say in quoting the Hebrews passage? Willfull sinning results in no reward.
Yes they are. Their environment is not just their physical surroundings. It is also the atmospjere YOU bring to those surroundings. So obviously YOU are doing well to compensate for what they are dealing with not far outside their door. You are equipping them with the tools they need to be self-confident enough to make good choices for themselves.
wilful sinning is if I plan to masterbate tomarrow. The bible says that there is sin which leads unto death and sin wich leads not unto death..
Sinning at a moment of weakness is not the same as planned sin.
There are things I left out of the original story because it would take a book to tell the story like my dreams after the day we met.
The night before I praposed I dreamed at breakfast she told me she was born in this city but moved away when she was 6 and that he father used ot take her to a park with cement animals.
In the dream I took her to the park but when she saw the animals she said “can we go to the other end of the park where there are no animals?” and as I drove she said “right here is fine” I followerd her to one of 3 picnic tables in the dream. Table # 2.
The next morning, I got her up for work but she called out. She fixed breakfast without me asking and when we were eating she said about being born here and about her dad and the park.
I knew the park because I played there when I was a kid too, there was 3 parks but I knew from the dream the one it was. I drove there and just as in the dream she said lets go to the other end of the park. Because it was sort of scaring me that things had become that vivid, I walked past her as she went to the tables. I stoped at the first table but she waled past me to the second table.
I went to her and she said “you seem to know me and know what I have been thinking for the last 5 days. Do you know what I am thinking? I said yes because though I could not hear her thoughts at that moment, in the dream I heard her praying to god, “IF this is the husband I have been waiting for, let him say his vows to me, righ here right now.”
When I said I know what you are thinking, she asked “What am I thinking?” I started saying my vows to her and she started crying and fell into my arms just as it was in the dream.
I have no other explination for those events as it was God. I kept a diary for a long time but I would never let anyone read it because of other things in it. Things to unbeleavable for people to read. I do not try to use this to convince people to try to serve god. I either want people to serve him because thye want to or dont. I do not like it when I hear someone say “I am trying Jesus out to see if it works for me.” like her is a pair of pants or shirt. They cause people like me more problems then they are worth.
Those are the type of people the bible speaks of when it states that people hate him and dispise him because of people like that.”
anyways, you can break a deal inadvertantly without meaning it in a moment of anger or passion. It is completely different if someone plans on lying tomarrow or cheating on their wife on Mondday ad lunch.
I do not try to expect anythig from God. When I made the deal, I was not running around trying to find a wife, I do not tell people that God is for them, I do not know who will serve god and who will not.
I tell people that when I was 13, I decided to believe in god and if my life had turned out to be a distater and every time I tried to do what is right it went wrong, I would love him for the rest of my life and accept what ever came to me in life.
I hate it when I hear preachers on TV tell people they can have riches and good health if they send money. They are liars, riches are not for everyone and perfect health is not for everyone. Just as everyone on earth can not be a doctor, everyone can not be rich. Common sence tells us that. I am consoled inside that if there is a god, those liars will get their reward for steeling old peoples money.
If there is not a god,.. well I think we can agree that what goes around comes around and they will get theirs, even if its a horrible death or desease,
seeinit
Ah, the old weakness loophole.
Called out? ???
It sounds suspiciously like you two were living in (gasp) sin before you even proposed!
Maybe she was talking in her sleep and you absorbed this info subliminally.
Since you were familiar with the park, it is normal that it would occur in your dream. I can’t expalin away the coincidence of what happened and what was said. I just don’t attribute thinkgs I can’t explain to “God did it”. I leave it open for some future explanation.
For instance, I have had out of body experiences. Some people think those are spiritual, godly events. But now , scientists are saying that it can be explained neurologically.
From time immemorial we have attributed the unexplained to gods. And so far, pretty much all has been explained naturally.
It seems to me illogical to make the god leap, when the evidence generally points to nature, even if we can’t as yet see how. Eventually it will become clear.
But if you need to believe god did it, go right ahead. Just do it without interfering in the rights of others. And, a word of caution, don’t bet your life on it.
we were not living together. We were on a late date and so she slept in my room and I stayed in my bothers room. (against his advice, he said I should go for it).
she had to go to work the next morning (that was what she called out from)
I also had a dream my brother Ray died and a week later I recieved a call that they found him dead in his bed. They told me he had been dead about a week. I also had a dream a man told me Joseph was going to die. I told my sister and she laughed at me and said I was mistaken. My dad died 3 months later from a stroke. Even though everyone called him Joe, his name was Joseph.
btx my bother lived on the other side of the state and my dad lived in the next county.
last year I had a dream, my dad and brother told me to pack for a trip. I woke up and told my wife. Two days later my nephew called and said the family raised the money for someone to fly out to California and help our sister Missy. She had broke down with he 2 little girls.
It seams the night I had the dream, Missy called our Mom and told her the situation. I come from a family of 12, 6 boys and 6 girls. They had spent 2 days trying to find somson to fly out there but they did not want to call me bacause I do not associate with them. My nephew spent 2 days telling them to call me. I have always said I would never fly because I get sick in high situations and always had a fealing I would die in a plane crash. It was only because of the dream I flew out there and drove them back to Florida.
They could not get the 7 year old on a plane to fly here becsue she fears dieing in a plane crash. I do not know why I have dreams like that. I guess because I beleave ther is a god I atribute it to him. I only know I was nothing like the person I am now.
Seeinit:
SHUT UP.
No one cares about your bullshit stories. Even if they’re true you might be partly psychic or something like that, not God did it.
Seeinit:
So you had ‘prophetic’ dreams: so what? At what point did a jackrabbit w/a horse’s head go walking by? What’s next, you’ll do a tarot reading over the whole blog?
My advice is to stop smoking pot, & tell your ego the whole universe ISN’T watching your every little move.
Stoner allegory is the worst.