88| – Wrong again and again and again. The Neo-Cons predicted that the apocalypse would occur yesterday and yet the sun rose again this morning. Jerusalem did not go up in a mushroom crowd. Neither did Washington, DC. I know because I live in the Washington metropolitan area. Oh well, I’m certain this will not deter them from their prediction of the end of the world again next week.BTE
Good thing…I have a lot to do today and a pesky apocalypse would have really screwed things up.
I think there must be some type of religious contest between the Neo-Cons and the Jehovah Witnesses to see who can predict the end of the world. Both have failed,and continue to fail ,but their mindless followers remain just that,inspite of all the bogus rhetoric that spews forth from their leaders.
Blind religious faith is a blight to any society
Hey everyone, (new member/first post)
What really bugs me about the whole christian prophecy thing is that xtians use “filled prophecies” as evidence that they are right. Because there’s no way to fight them; when you point out that some of them haven’t all you get for a response is “Yet.”
So I thought I would show off my divine powers by making some prophecies that will be filled soon, no 2000 year wait.
All of these will happen in the next twenty years.
1. There will be a war.
2. A religous leader will die
3. A political leader will die
4. There will be a new standard media format
5. There will be a new pope
6. It will be warmer
7. There will be a new city somewhere
8. There still will be no evidence for a god.
If these don’t come true in 20 years, Then I will admit that I don’t have divine powers. However, if they do, it proves that I do…. doesn’t it..?
I have a prediction…
I predict the world will end when the sun finally “burns” off its Hydrogen fuel, expands into a red giant, and swallows the earth ? in about 4 or 5 billion years.
If I’m correct, I will be revered as a prophet. : )
*sigh*
I guess I still have to go to the dentist and get my teeth cleaned today, what with the world not ending as promised. My dentist is going to be one of the raptured people. I’d go somewhere else, but he’s a very good dentist and it’s a small town.
They never do give a money-back guarantee on those threats…er…uh, promises, do they?
DvanW
I will go ahead and revere you now.
I don’t have the patience to wait 4 or 5 billion years to test your prophecy.
But you’re such a brilliant artist, I feel you must be correct; you must be in tune with the gods.
Karen,
You’re so damn sweet. Thanks.
Being an artist yourself, you understand how such comments truly help the “fragile artist’s ego”.
DvanW
Yes, I understand. But after seeing your work, it’s hard to believe you still struggle with the ego.
I know, it’s ALWAYS a struggle. Art is SO subjective-or rather appreciation of it is.
But in my opinion, you are amazingly talented!
Just stop by my office any time your ego needs stroking.:)
Let’s use accurate terminology, neo-cons are more appropriately labeled paleo-nazis.
The world was supposed to end yesterday? Goodness. And I wouldn?t have even known why the fiery angels or whatever were flying by my window!
DVanWechel and Ryan, I think you both have plausible platforms for prophet-ship. However, DVanWechel, you made the oh-so-prophet-like decision to predict something that clearly won?t happen within anyone on this board?s lifetime. I must thus, like Karen, throw my lot in with your predictions. I did, however, find Ryan?s #7 quite appealing, especially if he?d tell me where this new city will be located so I can go buy up all the land and sell it at a hefty profit. (profits from the prophet?)
Welcome, Ryan! Where you herald from?
“Just stop by my office any time your ego needs stroking.:)”
I’ll be sure to do so.
Aviaa: “I did, however, find Ryan?s #7 quite appealing, especially if he?d tell me where this new city will be located so I can go buy up all the land and sell it at a hefty profit. “
You may be onto something there.
Ryan, please gives us the location of the new city : )
Hey! DVanWechel! It’s my land! Stay away!
Oops. Didn’t realize there was supposed to have been an apocalypse yesterday. Oh well.
What I’ve wondered is this…..don’t these fools realize that any apocalypse that happens will be MAN MADED. Their make-believe god won’t have any more to do with it than the FSM. A human being real person will drop a flipping bomb somewhere, another human being real person will bomb them in response. Pretty soon they’ll all be bombing each other, and “POOF” the world and all of us will be gone.
And the FSM will be pissed that they blew up HIS world!
On another note, yesterday was such a crappy day for me….I wouldn’t have minded some peace. My BF, best friend, SO..or whatever is the acceptable title these days…was diagnosed with advanced cancer on Monday. We are struggling right now. He’s in an Adventist Hospital, and I just want to beat the shit out of every person whose “praying” for us. I DON’T WANT PRAYER – I want positive thinking. I WANT A NON-RELIGIOUS HOSPITAL. I berated one nurse because she told us God will take care of things. I’m sorry, but I’m entitled to go batshit sometimes, and this was one of those times. I want them to come in to the room and SMILE!!!, regardless of the news. But mostly, I just want him to be better, and that may not happen.
It’s positive thinking that has been proven to work, right? I may need reminding……..
sorry to go off on that…….
hey bones, sorry to hear about your best friend. I’ll send positive thinking your way for sure. Cancer is tough.
Bones — Shambhala Sun has a “Spotlight” section on “How To Meditate.” Nothing magic happens — meditation helps a person sit (or walk) in bad times as well as good. You can do it on a chair next to a hospital bed. I wish you peace, happiness, strength and confidence.
http://www.shambhalasun.com
Bones
I’m very sorry to hear about your BF’s condition. By advanced cancer, do you mean that it’s inoperable and treatment won’t help? Is he a believer? How’d he end up in an Adventist hospital? That’s GOT to grate on the nerves, especially if he doesn’t partake of the beliefs.
Of course I will join in the positive thought train, which I’m sure can’t hurt. It’s the positive action that has the most benefit though. Get your BF the hell out of that hospital if all they’re gonna do for him is say gawd will take care of things!
Bones,
So sorry to hear of your BF’s cancer. I empathize with you as I recently heard similar news about my mother. We’re not sure of the extent yet – but I understand a little of what you are going through.
Bones,
I’m so sorry to hear of your BF?s cancer and the difficulties at the hospital. I’m sure it helps him to have you around, acting as an advocate for him. Take care of yourself too as you?re taking care of him, okay?
(aviia, I ‘herald’ from Ypsilanti, MI)
For those of you who asked where this new city is to be formed, I regret to tell you that the land is not up for sale anyway, so there’s really no point to knowing where it’s going to be. I will make one more prophecy to make up for this
9. There will be a new “Extreme” flavor of chips in the next 20 years
I didnt know the Neo-Cons predicted an apocalypse. After reading the link I wondered what the author meant by “a proclamation trumpeted by Neo-Cons far and wide”. Perhaps it means 2 people, one in San Diego and the other in New York? That would be “far and wide”, wont it?
Are we still here?
I just found out that war criminal mass murderer Richard Armitage met with Tom Cruise and other scientologists. Maybe the combination of criminal scientologists and nazi Armitage saved the world.
Bones, you live in Colorado, right? I can think of only 2 adventist hospitals, Avista, and Littleton. Both are owned by centura health, which is owned by catholic health initiatives. My understanding of that company’s policies is that if you are bothered by religious statements by staff, you have the right to ask that it be stopped. Speak to the head nurse for your floor. I hope the situation improves for you, and if you need anyone local to speak with, feel free to e-mail me at my nickname at c o m c a s t.net without the spaces (stupid system won’t let me put my actual e-mail address on here.)
sorry to hear about your bf.bones keep us up to date.
Actually, I thought they were touting yesterday as the BEGINNING of the apox. Except that no one asked them exactly what’s going to happen to let them know it’s started… Well, except they were inferring it was becuase Iran said they’re not giving up their uranium enrichment program. But we all knew that anyway, so I guess it had already begun? so they’re wrong anyway, right? (I mean outside of them always being wrong anyway–buts that’s just do to their stupidity and them being a dickhead.)
Did I miss something? Apocalypse Yesterday?
This site is as bad as the Democratic Underground and 100MonkeysTyping. You guys are more concerned with an apocalypse than the religious folks are.
Comment from Diane:
(I mean outside of them always being wrong anyway–buts that’s just do to their stupidity and them being a dickhead.)
Comment from Slowsky:
It sounds like you’re the ignorant one in this case. Why not take an ESL class or get your GED?
Hey guys, sorry that I joined and then left in the space of about two weeks. I joined the Atheism vs Christianity google group so that’s were I’ve been. If you don’t know who I am I had that little debate with sirboxer on topics such as Hitler’s beliefs. How is he these days?
On topic:
I’m not at all suprised by the apocalypse not coming today. If there was a God he would want to catch us off-gaurd.
I think he’s slowsky.
> I think he’s slowsky
I think I even talked to you when I was here.
I posted in June of this year.
Slowsky:
Good reason to be. The religious folk are trying to accelerate it.
From Mpoxsx: “I’m not at all suprised by the apocalypse not coming today. If there was a God he would want to catch us off-gaurd.”
Reminds me of a spoof bumpersticker: “Jesus is coming — everyone look busy!”
As for the term “Neo-Con” — I thought that was political, not religious — someone who likes war, dislikes the poor and wants to privatize all government services for the sake of his stock portfolio. Someone like Dick Cheney, who couldn’t care less about the end of times because he’s been facing it with each heart operation.
I don’t believe it was the “neo-cons” who came up with the prophecy.
Ahmadinejad believes HE is the one who will usher in the end of the world.
So, while we’re all laughing, tell me. How are we going to deal with this mad man?
Articles refered to in this thread tend to lessen the idea that Iran is a REAL threat. Does anyone believe Iran will NOT have the potential to create a mushroom cloud in the near future?
Facts are facts. Laugh if you want to, but these are very critical times…
So I’m curious. How would the most enlighted members of the American society deal with this mad man…?
“Don’t take life to seriously…you’ll live longer. And at the risk of “ruffling a few feathers”…Humor is one of lifes gifts…it’s amazing how many “so called grownups” haven’t discovered that simple truth.” — phreedm 1/31/06
Take your own advice and lighten up…
Iran can’t even enrich enough uranium to the minimum 20% U-235 to operate a reactor, let alone the 85% U-235 to yield an explosive. They’re decades away.
Iran can’t even enrich enough uranium to the minimum 20% U-235 to operate a reactor, let alone the 85% U-235 to yield an explosive. They’re decades away.
Of course, by then, the world markets will respond to provide a safer, cleaner way to deal with Iran
Whoops, windows lock up, perhaps housekeeping can take care of that?
Here’s how I would take care of that “mad man” Phreedm…
…I would force him to partake in a blog where you are the only poster…that aught to do it.
I wanted to stop back and thank everyone for the kind words. Today is the day, we should find out exactly what is going on. It’s been quite the nasty roller-coaster ride! The unknown is the scariest part. They hadn’t been able to do a good biopsy due to other health issues but finally got it done yesterday.
So, he’s in an adventist hospital because it has the best cancer center under insurance. To arvadaatheist, he was at Littleton, but was moved to Porter ICU on Monday night. The tumor is interfering with his blood flow, breathing & heart function, so they want to watch him closely.
I did discover that all we needed to do was SPEAK UP re: religious beliefs (or lack of), and have had no problems since. It does bother me to see all this “god” shit all over the hospital, but that’s kinda the least of our worries.
I guess I’d describe him best as an agnostic. Doesn’t exactly “not” believe in god, but hates religion. His sister and my sister added him to their prayer circles. I tried to tactfully explain that while prayer may make them feel better mentally, POSITIVE THINKING is what will help him both physically and mentally. Under other circumstances, I’d discuss this with them…right now I don’t have the energy.
I am doing pretty good staying positive, though I’ve had a few “moments” here and there. JP, thanks for the meditation site – i will check it out. I’ve been using some meditation and it does help clear my head.
Again, thanks for the positive thoughts. I knew this was the one place where no one would pray for us!
Bones
mxracer652
We should learn from history. North Korea began the same way, if I am not mistaken. It will not take them 10 years and they will have enough neighbors to help them out to get by any week embargo that is put on them. I do not want to pass on to my child anymore headaches cause we were too much of pussies to stand up to these lunatics. The longer we let them continue, the stronger they will get.
And put it on the calendar, I agreed with phreedummy on this one. But he is still a jerk.
Phreedm
Well, my thinking is as follows. Let’s for a moment put ourselves in the shoes of Mr Ahmadinejad or some hypothetical Iranian average citizen.
They are in a volatile area of the world, controlling natural oil reserves that are coveted by an oil hungry superpower with a huge conventional and nucular (sic) arsenal, a demonstrated proclivity to use military power to advance their own ends in the face of world opinion, and headed by a leader of questionable intelligence who believes fervently in a religion that thinks the end of the world is due at any moment.
Were I Mr Ahmadinejad I’d be bolstering my defenses too.
Were I a representative from a neutral country I’d be a damn site more nervous of what the USA may do militarily than what Iran may or may not do.
Off topic:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14497678/
Plan B is going to be made available, without prescription, to women over 18.
Oh no! Here comes the drumbeat of the fundies. To them morning-after contraception is abortion (never mind the fact that all it does is prevent pregnancy in the same way the pill does, just in souped-up doses).
Phreedummy,
You’re being a twit. Weapons grade plutonium and uranium must, by necessity, be of MUCH higher quality than the kind that is produced for power production.
We have our spies. I’m sure they know that, were they to enrich past a certain point, we’d be well aware of their intentions. It simply takes a lot more work to design a nuclear weapon and fuel for it. Then, they have to solve the problem of delivery. Nobody in the world is going to allow them to test ICBM delivery systems. The only real threat they’ll be is to their neighbors, never to us.
If you think I’d support your warmongering out of fear of trumped up Fox news reports, you’re sadly mistaken. No, we’re not going to go kill some more muslims, no matter how happy that makes you. The shrub had to learn from Iraq that he really didn’t have the support of the American people and that the small minority of fundies that run the Republican party were lying to him.
You don’t seem to have a problem with Israel having nukes, yet they’re just as fucking crazy as the muslims in that area of the world. Just because some people in our country support their religion doesn’t make them less crazy.
UH-OH
Pluto is no longer a planet.
Is that apocalyptic?
It’s still there, just reclassified.
How confusing for all the students about to do solar system models made out of clay or styrofoam balls.
You s’pose they ‘ll get extra credit for including Pluto, but adding a sign that says “This used to be a planet, but now it’s not.” ?
atomictesting:
You don’t see Israel making the boast of killing all Iranians do you?
Yes we have spies. Alot of good that did us in Iraq and Korea, eh?
Yep just like North Korea? And who needs an ICBM?!? Just put a nuke in a cargo carrier or on a cruise ship. There go your ports.
When was the last time you saw Jews blow up an airliner? Do you really expect Israel to sit back and wait for the Iranians who have made it clear that they want to kill Jews, to develop the bomb that WILL be used to exterminate them.
Trust me, our biggest mistake was being Politically Correct and pacifists. This has been going on for over 50 years and no one has but the hammer down on these radicals. Now it may be too late. Israel should have gone in and finished the job. We should have been right there with them.
Before you start calling me a warmonger, and Bush lover, and a republican, let me assure you, I am non of those.
billh,
I’m w/ HNZ & AT on this one, enriching uranium is a monumental task & they don’t even have the technology to operate a reactor, christ, most US research universities have reactors. That is how technologically disadvantaged they are.
Then you have the problem of yield, it’s directly proportional to the mass of the core. For a Nagasaki-like explosion, we’re talking about a 5 ton object, not something you can hide in a suitcase. To do any significant damage, there is no other option than ICBM, which is another significant technological hurdle to clear. N Korea has given up on ICBMs for the time being, because their technology sucks too. Sure, a small one will sink a ship, but destroy an entire port??? Not for decades.
No one has said that they could not have them. It is only that they do not want to be monitored. We have offered to supply them with the material. Please tell me that you guys do not think for a second that they do not want to own the bomb. As far as a Nagasaki-like explosion, that was primative. They are much smaller now and many many times more powerfull. Also, I keep hearing that it is not our problem, they will not be capable for many years of destroying entire cities.
continued rant:
I fear that we have screwed up this planet for our children. They are going to have to bear the attrocities that are going to come if something is not done NOW.
If you had someone living next door to you and he said that he did not like how you looked and was going to kill you and your family as soon as he gets enough guns, what would you do. Go to the police (U.N.)? And they do nothing! Bet your ass, I would be preparing to protect my family and as soon as it is apparent he is ready to attack, I would take him out and not wait for the bullets to riddle my family.
You have a society that wants you dead, and are seaking bigger and badder weapons, you better do something about it before it is too late.
End rant