88| – Wrong again and again and again. The Neo-Cons predicted that the apocalypse would occur yesterday and yet the sun rose again this morning. Jerusalem did not go up in a mushroom crowd. Neither did Washington, DC. I know because I live in the Washington metropolitan area. Oh well, I’m certain this will not deter them from their prediction of the end of the world again next week.BTE
the president of iran believes he will usher in a shiite messiah.iran
may not be close to a nuke but they are making good progress on missiles.
young people may be pro western but the clerics have the power.
Mpoxsx glad you are back.about the fuhrer i think irving made a good point that henchmen like himmler bare
most of the blame for the crimes.what is your view.
Comment from: atomictesting [
Hmmm. WMD’s? So let me get this stright. This time you’ll trust our spies to deliver accurate information. This time if they claim Iran is months away from a nuke you’d support a strike?
Comment from: mxracer652
Are you so blind? Who says the only way for them to get enriched uranium is by producing themselves. Have you seen the “made in North Korea” sticker on any parts of the missles they’ve supplied the hezbo’s?
Comment from: HeatheNZ
You’ve got to be kidding me…
Are you in the camp of not only equating Ahmadinejad with Bush, but also stating currently the USA is more a a threat to world peace then Iran?
As I figured…not a single positive response. Well at least one did…
I guess there’s more then one “jerk” on the board…
Comment from: Bluzman
January? Sheesh…you’ve got way too much time on your hands…
Pheedoodie sez:
Are you in the camp of not only equating Ahmadinejad with Bush, but also stating currently the USA is more a a threat to world peace then Iran?
In a word, yes. And I’m not alone. Michael Schuerer, the man who ran the Al Queda division in the CIA, agrees:
http://www.harpers.org/sb-seven-michael-scheuer-1156277744.html
Michael Scheuer served in the CIA for 22 years before resigning in 2004; he served as the chief of the bin Laden unit at the Counterterrorist Center from 1996 to 1999. He is the formerly anonymous author of Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror and Through Our Enemies’ Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America.
Q: And finally, an extra question?what needs to be done?
Shuerer: This may be a country bumpkin approach, but the truth is the best place to start. We need to acknowledge that we are at war, not because of who we are, but because of what we do. We are confronting a jihad that is inspired by the tangible and visible impact of our policies. People are willing to die for that, and we’re not going to win by killing them off one by one. We have a dozen years of reliable polling in the Middle East, and it shows overwhelming hostility to our policies?and at the same time it shows majorities that admire the way we live, our ability to feed and clothe our children and find work. We need to tell the truth to set the stage for a discussion of our foreign policy.
At the core of the debate is oil. As long as we and our allies are dependent on Gulf oil, we can’t do anything about the perception that we support Arab tyranny?the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, and other regimes in the region. Without the problem of oil, who cares who rules Saudi Arabia? If we solved the oil problem, we could back away from the contradiction of being democracy promoters and tyranny protectors. We should have started on this back in 1973, at the time of the first Arab oil embargo, but we’ve never moved away from our dependence. As it stands, we are going to have to fight wars if anything endangers the oil supply in the Middle East.
What you want with foreign policy is options. Right now we don’t have options because our economy and our allies’ economies are dependent on Middle East oil. What benefit do we get by letting China commit genocide-by-inundation by moving thousands and thousands of Han Chinese to overcome the dominance of Muslim Uighurs? What do we get out of supporting Putin in Chechnya? He may need to do it to maintain his country, but we don’t need to support what looks like a rape, pillage, and kill campaign against Muslims. The other area is Israel and Palestine. We’re not going to abandon the Israelis but we need to reestablish the relationship so it looks like we’re the great power and they’re our ally, and not the other way around. We need to create a situation where moderate Muslims can express support for the United States without being laughed off the block.
If it wasn’t for the failures and sheer stupidity of W. and the neo con crowd, Iran would not be in the position it’s in today, where it has influence in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Ahmadinejad would have never been elected if Bush hadn’t have invaded Iraq. The same can be said about Hamas.
Bush enabled Iran, a he has enabled most of the moslem world that has taken up arms against us. That makes him far more dangerous than Ahmadinejad and a potentially nuclear Iran could be. Ahmadinejad will lose credibility when Bush is gone, either by impeachment or (if he’s lucky) he leaves office in 2009.
Besides, who are we to tell another sovereign nation what arms they can or cannot have? Not that I like the idea of a nuclear Iran, but they have the right to arm themselves as they see fit as a sovereign nation, just like the good ol’ US of A.
India has nukes now. What did Bush do? He kissed their ass, that’s what! What’s he doing about North Korea? NOTHING! He’s too scared to, yet he did plenty of sabre rattling. And what did that get us? A North Korean missle test. Good job!
Because Bush decided to follow his cowboy diplomacy, we are the bad guys instead of Ahmadinejad.
Had someone with some common sense been President (Gore or Kerry come to mind) to open talks without the silly posturing, then we might be able to get somewhere with Iran.
You know, like the Clinton Administration DID accomplish.
But then again, Clinton probably would have stayed in Afghanistan and got the job done, instead of cutting and running to invade a country that had nothing to do with 9-11.
IRAQ.
As far as Israel goes, they made their own bed. Let them lay in it.
“you’ve got way too much time on your hands…”
Nah…I’ve just got a good memory and know how to do a google search. My point still stands…
godless77,
Excellent!
It’s not the spies that I don’t trust. It’s the president, and especially his cabinet.