Comments on: Oklahoma Acquittal http://atheists.org/blog/2006/07/09/oklahoma_acquittal A Blog of Atheist Thought Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:40:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tomwright http://atheists.org/blog/2006/07/09/oklahoma_acquittal/comment-page-1#comment-40189 tomwright Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-40189 Oklahomophobigodistan?<br /> <br /> The only thing more these folks could have endured is night riders and lynchings.<br /> <br /> I'll bet, if the jury had been polled, it was split and not unanimous. They just could not agree unanimously to convict and wanted to go home, so just called it aquittal so the could do so.<br /> <br /> OK: Who still believes atheists should not arm themselves for self defense? Even if it was while retreating to another state or country for political and religous asylum?<br /> <br /> If, after reading this story, you still think the religous fundies are gonna play fair and by the rules you are naive at best. I'll bet when the judge went into his chambers he was consulting with other fundie judges to find a way to void the jury verdict.<br /> <br /> Armed, organized and unflinching is the only way to preserve your rights.<br /> <br /> Two out of three is a losing hand. Oklahomophobigodistan?

The only thing more these folks could have endured is night riders and lynchings.

I’ll bet, if the jury had been polled, it was split and not unanimous. They just could not agree unanimously to convict and wanted to go home, so just called it aquittal so the could do so.

OK: Who still believes atheists should not arm themselves for self defense? Even if it was while retreating to another state or country for political and religous asylum?

If, after reading this story, you still think the religous fundies are gonna play fair and by the rules you are naive at best. I’ll bet when the judge went into his chambers he was consulting with other fundie judges to find a way to void the jury verdict.

Armed, organized and unflinching is the only way to preserve your rights.

Two out of three is a losing hand.

]]> By: Agnosticat http://atheists.org/blog/2006/07/09/oklahoma_acquittal/comment-page-1#comment-40213 Agnosticat Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-40213 I had some friends driven out of Mississippi a couple of years ago just like this. There's no doubt in my mind that they would have suffered just as badly had they stayed to fight. It's a mistake to think this is just an isolated incidence. It could happen to any of us under the right circumstances. I had some friends driven out of Mississippi a couple of years ago just like this. There’s no doubt in my mind that they would have suffered just as badly had they stayed to fight. It’s a mistake to think this is just an isolated incidence. It could happen to any of us under the right circumstances.

]]> By: godless77 http://atheists.org/blog/2006/07/09/oklahoma_acquittal/comment-page-1#comment-40228 godless77 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-40228 You guys are right. If we sit idly by or think the courts will continue to protect us, we will end up the persecuted.<br /> (I know, I hate that word, too)<br /> How long until the fundies replace this judge with one of their "activists"? How many stories do we have to read that atheists are the most mistrusted and reviled people on the planet? How long until we all end up in jail or "indoctrination camps"?<br /> Unflinching and organized, yes. Reluctantly, I have to admit we may have to arm ourselves. I hope we could find a place where we all could live peacefully while the godnuts here and in the Middle East wage their jihads.<br /> I would add, we need our own land to defend. I know America ain't it, at least not any longer... You guys are right. If we sit idly by or think the courts will continue to protect us, we will end up the persecuted.
(I know, I hate that word, too)
How long until the fundies replace this judge with one of their “activists”? How many stories do we have to read that atheists are the most mistrusted and reviled people on the planet? How long until we all end up in jail or “indoctrination camps”?
Unflinching and organized, yes. Reluctantly, I have to admit we may have to arm ourselves. I hope we could find a place where we all could live peacefully while the godnuts here and in the Middle East wage their jihads.
I would add, we need our own land to defend. I know America ain’t it, at least not any longer…

]]> By: reluctantatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2006/07/09/oklahoma_acquittal/comment-page-1#comment-40243 reluctantatheist Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-40243 As I see it, we have to be far more vocal.<br /> No more suffering in silence. <br /> The largest problem we have is 1 of image. <br /> Note that when a celebrity is religious, the media mentions it. Madonna is a cabalist (misspelling intentional), Spears was recently plastered all over some tabloid about some religious advisor. <br /> But when Lance Armstrong is blasting at us over the telly, any mention he's an atheist? Most xtians are unaware that Schulz was a secular humanist (& when confronted w/it, deny it outright).<br /> Face it folks: we're branded as NHI (no humans involved). & when we ARE mentioned, it's ad hominem central.<br /> We need to reach out & TOUCH some of these people (not the squalid, nor the violent, way). <br /> I know it's easy for me to say: I can drive around w/a Darwin fish on my car, & no 1 says boo.<br /> Too many of us are faceless: too many of us portrayed as the vaudevillian Simon Legree, plotting the downfall of morality.<br /> But TW's right: we suffer from a distinct lack of organization.<br /> We need more Godless marches. We need more protests. We also need to contribute to the respective communities we live in, all the while making it clear we are ATHEISTS. <br /> In the meantime, we all need to train ourselves in self-defense. I practice 6 days a week, 1 1/2 sessions. <br /> Because I'm a minority. & 1 of these days, some 1's going to take a swing at me when they find out.<br /> I guarantee a rude surprise on that occasion.<br /> So I'm gonna co-opt a motto:<br /> Say it loud. Say it proud.<br /> & don't back down.<br /> The religious are social darwinists: they can smell fear. As I see it, we have to be far more vocal.
No more suffering in silence.
The largest problem we have is 1 of image.
Note that when a celebrity is religious, the media mentions it. Madonna is a cabalist (misspelling intentional), Spears was recently plastered all over some tabloid about some religious advisor.
But when Lance Armstrong is blasting at us over the telly, any mention he’s an atheist? Most xtians are unaware that Schulz was a secular humanist (& when confronted w/it, deny it outright).
Face it folks: we’re branded as NHI (no humans involved). & when we ARE mentioned, it’s ad hominem central.
We need to reach out & TOUCH some of these people (not the squalid, nor the violent, way).
I know it’s easy for me to say: I can drive around w/a Darwin fish on my car, & no 1 says boo.
Too many of us are faceless: too many of us portrayed as the vaudevillian Simon Legree, plotting the downfall of morality.
But TW’s right: we suffer from a distinct lack of organization.
We need more Godless marches. We need more protests. We also need to contribute to the respective communities we live in, all the while making it clear we are ATHEISTS.
In the meantime, we all need to train ourselves in self-defense. I practice 6 days a week, 1 1/2 sessions.
Because I’m a minority. & 1 of these days, some 1′s going to take a swing at me when they find out.
I guarantee a rude surprise on that occasion.
So I’m gonna co-opt a motto:
Say it loud. Say it proud.
& don’t back down.
The religious are social darwinists: they can smell fear.

]]> By: anadrol http://atheists.org/blog/2006/07/09/oklahoma_acquittal/comment-page-1#comment-40250 anadrol Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-40250 Now that is a bone chilling account. Seriously though are we living in the 21st century? I hope the civil case goes well, and as for that 1st lawyer he should be disbarred. Now that is a bone chilling account. Seriously though are we living in the 21st century? I hope the civil case goes well, and as for that 1st lawyer he should be disbarred.

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