Hello from Texas! Guess what! It’s HOT in Texas!Having a wonderful time, wish you were here.But since you’re not, check out the web page for Anna Nevenic, who is running for Congress as a progressive Democrat and is here at the convention. She also has published a short and concise book entitled Hidden Agenda.American Atheists is currently seeking to expand its State Director roster. This is a thankless job that doesn’t pay, but you get to help change / fix the country. Email Bart Meltzer (bmeltzer@atheists.org)if you’re interested.Also, the Military Atheists and Freethinkers is seeking speakers with a military background. Please contact Jason (president@maaf.info)
By the way karen, Allah is just another name for God. Everthing you have mentioned are stories!! Christians do not belive in them!! I do not believe in them!! THEY ARE FICTION!!
I totally agree with you, glad to see you didn’t exclude the following from the list as made up
answermethis
A-A-A-a-a-a-a-n-n-n-n-d-d-d-d……
Prove it.
What makes your god more than a story made up by anyone?
AnswerMeThis
Quoting that capricious, unreiable conglomeration of anonymously authored books full of vile atrocities, contradictions and absudities known as the bible is pretty pointless to non-believers.
It has about the same effect as quoting Harry Potter.
Way to slam a lob, HZ.
Game, set, match.
You know what karen, that is an excellent question. A fucking ‘clinker’ as I like to say. Unfortunately thats where the likes and me and you hit a dead end, because no-one can awnswer that. The only thing I can fall back on with a question like that is that is my faith. But by saying there is no God, you are saying there is no creator. You are saying that there is no beginning. How can YOU explain how we began? What do you believe?
Not wishing to speak for Karen, I wish to make a comment: All an atheist is saying is that they do not hold a belief in gods.
Some might say there is no begining, some may say there is, and others may say they don’t know.
This is largely irrelevant to being an atheist.
By the way HeatheNZ, being told that we are all an accident, that they way we got here is just a coincidence. Telling me that everyone I love, my friends, and family. The music I listen to, the things I enjoy, the things I smell, taste, touch, all of that is an accident? I find that a much, much bigger insult.
By the way folks, I gotta go. Football match…I’ll be on some other time to talk to you. Cya wen i do.
answermethis
What do I believe?
For starters, I believe in one less god than you do.
What do you mean by how “we” began? Man?
Evolution.
Evolution?
Abiogenesis.
Matter?
I dunno.
But not anything supernatural. Something that hasn’t been discovered or explained-yet-but not in the hands of any god(s).
AMT, A bigger insult than what?
Life can be a bitch.
Karen,
Thanks for the virtual high five. In truth it was pretty obvious that amt would just dismiss the list out of hand ….
I guess that’s an example of throwing the baby out with the bath water
Karen,
Interestingly AMT included in his/her dismissal a denial of the Holy Spirit.
This is of course the only unforgivable sin in xianity.
ooops!
Do you think that means that AMT is destined to enternal damnation?
Kind of a steep price to pay for not reading a big list of gods carefully.
HZ
I confess, I didn’t read the entire list either, and missed the inclusion of the xian gods! But then, I’m not claiming any of them as real.
ooops indeedy! I think eternal damnation is in AMT’s future. Denial of the holy spirit by disregard and through laziness. Terrible! Surely a god as vengeful and loatheome as the one AMT was quoting would not accept a plea of a harmless mistake. Ouch.
All,
As I am rather new here (and my apologies for needing to ask) I’d like to know if “answermethis” is typical of believers who hang around atheist sites hoping to “convince” us that we are but blind fools waiting to be led out of the darkness.
In any event, what a hoot!
:):)
I almost can’t believe he/sh/it is for real.
does the author david mills ever post here?
recoveringpopaphile,
AMT is in my opinion fairly typical of a short-timer. I doubt we’ll see a return – but you never know.
They tend to come in and tell us very basic and simple things as if we’d never heard of them b4.
I think of them as well-intentioned but ill-equipped.
Sometimes however, if we are very lucky they’ll come up with something novel.
Haha, HeatheNZ hit the nail on the head. We get tons of noobie theists in here spouting off the same nonsense as if they’ve thought long and hard about it.
And then we get one or two who are considerate enough to stick around awhile before realizing the futility of their conversion attempts.
And then we get spanders
What surprises me most about hit and run xians is that some try to convert us by quoting the bible, a book that we hold to be nothing more than (boring) fairy tales.
They do not realise how pointless it is.As Isaac Asimov puts it: “Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived”
SS
You gotta love Mr Asimov
Reading the foundation novels at about 8 made me realise what a powerful tool for controlling the masses religion really is.
Gotta lov Asimov!
I’m Jewish and believe in God and I also support your right not to believe in God.
I do not want to see Republicans, who I dod not consider good christians enact their false faith also known as cheap labor Republicanism into law.
Don’t forget that cheap labor Republican economic policies have destroyed more marriages than any factor in this country.
Republicans ought to focus on their own family.
I ask you to consider joining the campaign for progressive legislation.
Join the campaign for progressive legislation http://www.boycott-republicans.com
Please do not buy products from these Republican contributors.
The Republican Party appears weak and vulnerable at the cash registers of the companies that give money to the Republican Party.
I have seen that people do not want to call companies and tell them why they boycott companies and ask for a progressive agenda, so then just avoid buying from these companies and spread the word. I will tell the Speaker of the House and the Senate majority leader and the CEOs of these companies listed below that their profits will silently lessen until an agenda listed below gets acceded to by the Republican Party in a press conference and then passed by congress and signed by the pResident. So just do this and I will do the rest of the work for you. You have no petitions to sign, no phone calls to make, just stop buying products from these Republican contributors and to tell others as well to stop. Thank you.
Dell Computers, Walmart, Wendy’s, Outback Steak House, Dominos Pizza, Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Eckerd, CVS and Walgreens, Curves for women health clubs, General Electric and Exxon/Mobil.
A progressive agenda for America.
I demand that the Republican Party hold a press conference and accede to these demands. Until such a press conference happens and the legislation and/or actions gets passed I will boycott products from Republican contributors Walmart, Wendy’s, Outback Steak House, Dominos Pizza, Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Eckerd, CVS and Walgreens, Curves for women health clubs, General Electric and Exxon/Mobil.
I demand that congress pass legislation ending the war in Iraq and withdraw the troops and arrange with the United Nations to replace US troops with UN troops to defend Iraq until The Iraqi army can defend Iraq.
I demand that the Republican party end their aggressive and hateful action to end a woman’s right to choose abortion or not.
I demand that the Republican party end their aggressive and hateful action to harrass immigrants to this country.
I demand that the Congress of the United states and the president of the United States enact a law to increase the minimum wage to TEN dollars an hour and also to extend unemployment benefits to a year or more for all people whose unemployment benefits expired after 6 months even though they still seek work.
I demand that the Congress of the United States to not privatize social security benefits in any form including taking a percentage of the social security tax and placing it in private accounts. People can already create their own pensions with money after taxes in the private sector.
I demand that the congress make all of a person’s earned income taxable for social security FICA tax purposes and remove the 88,000 dollar taxable income limit. This will make social security solvent for many years to come.
I demand the congress increase the payroll tax in order to make social security solvent as well.
I demand congress and the president enact a prescription drug benefit under Medicare Part B which covers 80 percent of medication cost, with no extra premium, no extra deductibles, no means test and no coverage gaps, and no penalties for signing up in a succeeding year.
I demand congress repeal the faulty Medicare law HR 1 / S 1 passed by congress in Nov 2003.
I demand congress enact single payer universal health insurance for every citizen as minimum coverage.
I demand that congress and the president enact universal vote by mail throughout the 50 states of the United States of America with paper ballots easy to fill out and difficult to change or invalidate by Republican Party officials. This will prevent Republicans from vote suppression by skin color and political party which happened electronically and in person in the 2000 and 2004 elections.
I demand that congress and the president enact that civil servants on every state payroll keep track of voter registrations and vote counting of mail in votes in each precinct and not companies such as Choicepoint. We need to take the Republican Party out of the business of keeping track of voter registration and counting votes.
I demand that congress and the president ban the secretary of state in each of the 50 states from engaging in politics especially acting as a campaign official for a presidential campaign.
I demand congress enact legislation protecting private pensions from corporations deliberately declaring bankruptcy or ending pensions outright.
I invite you to put your legislative demands in with this list.
Wow maximus, good post. Very impressive.
Hey Maximus, I greatly enjoyed your post. Are you familiar with Robert Reich? I always recommend “Reason: why liberals will win the battle for america”. I thought it was a great read.
Great post, Maximus. Just one problem for me, though: I work at Wendy’s
Otherwise, good idea. The old “hit ‘em where it hurts, in the wallet” strategy usually works.
Back when I was in high school and forced to attend church with my parents, the southern Baptist churches led a boycott against those “trashy, sinful” soap operas. They did this buy refusing to buy the products advertized during these shows. Cleaning products make up a large portion of that advertizing. I remember that they filled out and signed piles of postcards to be sent to the S.C. Johnson Wax company, saying they would no longer buy those products unless the company stopped supporting “filth” on TV. The company still advertizes during the soaps, but if you’ve noticed, now they tack “S.C. Johnson, a family company,” onto the end of each commercial. Just shows you the power that large-scale boycotting can have.
mighty maximus:
And I do not want to see Democrats, whom I do not consider to be good at governing, enact their policies?also known as failed, impractical, and immoral social_ist-utopian ideals?on our already proven American system of free enterprise.
How fascinating that you, in apparent knee-jerk fashion, paint Republicans as being ?not good Christians? without any further elaboration.
Wow! Care to give any data to back that ridiculous claim up?
Good luck with all your ?demands? because ?luck? is the onlyway they?ll ever be met? and by the way, if there is indeed a God, then that negates the possibility of ?luck.?
As a ?good? Christian, I pray that you?ll come to the realization that what you ?demand? from your government is not only impractical but will further contribute to, and hasten our cultural and national demise. I pray that you will soon see that what you presently think of as ?progressive? is, in reality, regressive in that it seeks to restrain free enterprise, stifle creativity, impede economic growth, and most of all, strangle individual freedoms.
jcc:
Why do some of those things sound…familiar.
Oh, right. They’re going on right now.
Dagny, you work at Wendy’s? I work at Wal-Mart!
So how much money did American Atheists give the Mormons when using the Mormon owned hotel chain for the convention?
MMOH would have never tolerated the consistent misuse of the organization by the people that are currently driving it into the ground.
The number of attendees was at an all time low, made up of mostly the loyalists who joined when MMOH was running things and have no other social group to associate with.
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