Comments on: To Kill a Killer http://atheists.org/blog/2006/04/03/to_kill_a_killer A Blog of Atheist Thought Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:01:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: mryder66 http://atheists.org/blog/2006/04/03/to_kill_a_killer/comment-page-1#comment-31820 mryder66 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-31820 Does he deserve to die? Probably. Are we as a society qualified to make that determination objectively? Possibly. Do we know where to draw the line to mete out such punishment justly? Probably not.<br /> <br /> Personally I'm against capital punishment because it is not (and I think cannot) be equitably applied, it's not reversable, and it is arguably ineffective as a deterrent. Does he deserve to die? Probably. Are we as a society qualified to make that determination objectively? Possibly. Do we know where to draw the line to mete out such punishment justly? Probably not.

Personally I’m against capital punishment because it is not (and I think cannot) be equitably applied, it’s not reversable, and it is arguably ineffective as a deterrent.

]]> By: ang6666 http://atheists.org/blog/2006/04/03/to_kill_a_killer/comment-page-1#comment-31821 ang6666 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-31821 I have always been pro-death penalty and feel it is not used nearly enough. Which really goes at odds with my liberal side. Does this guy deserve it, yes. Why should he sit there in prison, and find any joy --- any reason to laugh --- again. I have always been pro-death penalty and feel it is not used nearly enough. Which really goes at odds with my liberal side. Does this guy deserve it, yes. Why should he sit there in prison, and find any joy — any reason to laugh — again.

]]> By: reluctantatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2006/04/03/to_kill_a_killer/comment-page-1#comment-31824 reluctantatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-31824 I am of two minds on this.<br /> I was reading somewhere (probably Ingersoll) that our justice system doesn't rehabilitate - it engages in retribution. <br /> OTH, a mad dog is a danger to 1 & all.<br /> And yet - to a hereafterian, it poses no deterrent whatsoever. It also creates a martyr, that others might emulate. <br /> Rotting in prison is a better answer - for the memory of the masses is fleeting at best.<br /> The would-be martyr would look to a fresher example, rather than 1 decades old, still alive. I am of two minds on this.
I was reading somewhere (probably Ingersoll) that our justice system doesn’t rehabilitate – it engages in retribution.
OTH, a mad dog is a danger to 1 & all.
And yet – to a hereafterian, it poses no deterrent whatsoever. It also creates a martyr, that others might emulate.
Rotting in prison is a better answer – for the memory of the masses is fleeting at best.
The would-be martyr would look to a fresher example, rather than 1 decades old, still alive.

]]> By: imaskeptic http://atheists.org/blog/2006/04/03/to_kill_a_killer/comment-page-1#comment-31825 imaskeptic Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-31825 i agree with reluctant....they don't care if they die or live, which makes capital punishment a minimal deterrant and hardly a punishment(the virgins await)...let him rot in a christian prison and he'll soon be forgotten....meanwhile 9 american troops were killed yesterday for no reason....war on terror? bullshit i agree with reluctant….they don’t care if they die or live, which makes capital punishment a minimal deterrant and hardly a punishment(the virgins await)…let him rot in a christian prison and he’ll soon be forgotten….meanwhile 9 american troops were killed yesterday for no reason….war on terror? bullshit

]]> By: alexgator1 http://atheists.org/blog/2006/04/03/to_kill_a_killer/comment-page-1#comment-31826 alexgator1 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-31826 I'm with Ang on this one-the death penalty isn't used enough. My tax payer money pays for these loser bastards to sit in jail for the rest of their lives. What about victim's rights? I know that if someone ever murdered a person I love I would give total support for the death penalty.<br /> Fry the son of a bitch and set an example to other would be faith based murderers. We as a society have got to take a very hard stance on crime and I do believe that if the death penalty was more common it would be a very strong deterrent to commit heinous crimes.<br /> Alex.<br /> I’m with Ang on this one-the death penalty isn’t used enough. My tax payer money pays for these loser bastards to sit in jail for the rest of their lives. What about victim’s rights? I know that if someone ever murdered a person I love I would give total support for the death penalty.
Fry the son of a bitch and set an example to other would be faith based murderers. We as a society have got to take a very hard stance on crime and I do believe that if the death penalty was more common it would be a very strong deterrent to commit heinous crimes.
Alex.

]]> By: suttsteve http://atheists.org/blog/2006/04/03/to_kill_a_killer/comment-page-1#comment-31828 suttsteve Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-31828 Murder is never justified. Murder is never justified.

]]> By: imaskeptic http://atheists.org/blog/2006/04/03/to_kill_a_killer/comment-page-1#comment-31829 imaskeptic Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-31829 crime is rampant in states with the death penalty...it is not a deterrant...murders are usually srur of the moment, revenge or serial...the death penalty hasn't reduced them...it doesn't enter into one's thinking....let the families decide what to do with the bastards...if they want them hung,so be it. crime is rampant in states with the death penalty…it is not a deterrant…murders are usually srur of the moment, revenge or serial…the death penalty hasn’t reduced them…it doesn’t enter into one’s thinking….let the families decide what to do with the bastards…if they want them hung,so be it.

]]> By: CassandraCox http://atheists.org/blog/2006/04/03/to_kill_a_killer/comment-page-1#comment-31830 CassandraCox Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-31830 reluctant said:<br /> <blockquote>I was reading somewhere (probably Ingersoll) that our justice system doesn't rehabilitate - it engages in retribution.</blockquote><br /> <br /> I think that this is the absolute truth. That there is rehabilitation going on is what society tells themselves to justify locking up human beings. I am very close to someone who spent time in prison and there is no rehabilitation. It's a breeding ground for criminals.<br /> <br /> That said, I don't think that putting this man to death is the answer. What will it accomplish? I was once upon a time very pro-death penalty, but I realized that it's just barbaric behavior. This is the United States of America. Surely we are able to come up with alternative forms of harsh punishment. What, we have "laws" against torture but we'll kill a citizen for a crime? <br /> <br /> Killing this man will not bring anyone back, it will not make 9/11 go away. I would much rather see this guy locked up in a stone 6x6 room with a dirt floor, and only given bread and water for eternity. <b>That</b> would be punishment. reluctant said:

I was reading somewhere (probably Ingersoll) that our justice system doesn’t rehabilitate – it engages in retribution.

I think that this is the absolute truth. That there is rehabilitation going on is what society tells themselves to justify locking up human beings. I am very close to someone who spent time in prison and there is no rehabilitation. It’s a breeding ground for criminals.

That said, I don’t think that putting this man to death is the answer. What will it accomplish? I was once upon a time very pro-death penalty, but I realized that it’s just barbaric behavior. This is the United States of America. Surely we are able to come up with alternative forms of harsh punishment. What, we have “laws” against torture but we’ll kill a citizen for a crime?

Killing this man will not bring anyone back, it will not make 9/11 go away. I would much rather see this guy locked up in a stone 6×6 room with a dirt floor, and only given bread and water for eternity. That would be punishment.

]]> By: CassandraCox http://atheists.org/blog/2006/04/03/to_kill_a_killer/comment-page-1#comment-31831 CassandraCox Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-31831 <blockquote>What, we have "laws" against torture but we'll kill a citizen for a crime?</blockquote><br /> <br /> Scratch that... I guess that wouldn't apply to Moussaoui. Sorry...

What, we have “laws” against torture but we’ll kill a citizen for a crime?

Scratch that… I guess that wouldn’t apply to Moussaoui. Sorry…

]]> By: mryder66 http://atheists.org/blog/2006/04/03/to_kill_a_killer/comment-page-1#comment-31832 mryder66 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-31832 Killers of Men<br /> <br /> As a v0yeur we all like a thriller,<br /> But our laws rest upon many a pillar,<br /> So when conspirital acts,<br /> Leave body-strewn tracts,<br /> Should our justice invoke 'kill a killer'? Killers of Men

As a v0yeur we all like a thriller,
But our laws rest upon many a pillar,
So when conspirital acts,
Leave body-strewn tracts,
Should our justice invoke ‘kill a killer’?

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