NEW YORK (AP) – Isaac Hayes has quit “South Park,” where he voices Chef, saying he can no longer stomach its take on religion.Hayes, who has played the ladies’ man/school cook in the animated Comedy Central satire since 1997, said in a statement Monday that he feels a line has been crossed.”There is a place in this world for satire, but there is a time when satire ends and intolerance and bigotry towards religious beliefs of others begins,” the 63-year-old soul singer and outspoken Scientologist said.”Religious beliefs are sacred to people, and at all times should be respected and honored,” he continued. “As a civil rights activist of the past 40 years, I cannot support a show that disrespects those beliefs and practices.”"South Park” co-creator Matt Stone responded sharply in an interview with The Associated Press Monday, saying, “This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology… He has no problem – and he’s cashed plenty of checks – with our show making fun of Christians.”
Awww! Didums not like people making fun of the FACT that Scientology is a SCAM? Does we get mad when the finger points at us?Gee… I remember a certain episode that jabbed at atheists, but nobody had a hissy fit.Mr. Hayes needs to remember that although we respect the RIGHT to believe, we don’t HAVE to respect the beliefs themselves. I, for instance, don’t respect barely-legal money-making scams disguised as religions.Blame the aliens.
I read L. Ron Hubbard’s “Dianetics” in the 50’s and found the premise quite interesting. A few days ago, I heard a piece on the news that said our sexual orientation, (and possibly other traits) is very likely to have been deterimined in the womb, by various chemical/hormonal secretions.
Hmmm, thought I. Was Hubbard right???
Scientology may be rather quirky, but who knows what real science may find out next. Don’t write anythng off too quickly. Keep an open mind.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
hehehe,
I fail to see how chemical/hormonal secretions can be evidence for alien ‘body thetans’ left over from the supposed ‘Xenu incident’ 75 million years ago (where the evil lord Xenu dump a bunch of aliens into volcanos and then blew the volcanos up with hydrogen bombs)…
…but sure, I’ll try to keep an open mind.
I loved they way the whole Scientology tenants were exposed, with the message (paraphrasing)”this really is what they believe”
It reminded my of the Golgafrinchans
from the Hitchhicker’s guide to the galaxy. A bunch un unwanted people dumpted on earth a few million years ago that took over the REAL humans that were evolving back then.
Both concepts are as funny as the other in my humble opinion.
Gee, parroting pop science/pop psychology and repackaging bad freudian psychoanalysis… What are the odds that parts may ring true? Doesn’t build a very strong case for the existence of ‘Thetans’
JA_LLM, my mind is plenty open, its just not amenable to BS. Just because a sci-fi comic book writer rewords something doesn’t make him a prophet. A major shortcoming of scientology is precisely the lack of skepticism on the part of its followers who keep plugging more cash in in hopes of clearing to a higher level of OT. Plus, keep in mind that we aren’t writing it off without having researched it first.
Besides, what part of letting go of bad memories and developing self confidence is novel? Seriously? Scientologist, or, excuse me, Organized Thetan = sucker. My sister sold amway for a year, scientology wasn’t too different.
Has anyone ever seen the ’stress test’ they give out on the street and in malls? The one where you hold two metal bars attached to a VU meter? They claim that any word or idea that causes a reaction must be linked to negative engramata which needs be erased in order to clear oneself to the next level. But the causal link is such crap! All you have to do is bite your tongue or curl your toes and you can make those meters scream off the charts. Anyone who has taken psych one knows that. Yet they use this as a means of selling people on the idea that they are psychologically deficient and that L RON HUBBARD of all people has the answer.
Gimme a break
JA_LLM:
I read it in the late 80’s-early 90’s. If memory serves, there was an interesting theory: that trauma was experienced by the fetus even in the earliest stages of growth, via trauma to the mother on a cellular level.
Probably folderol. But intriquing.
Will take correction if off on this.
I will say it again, scientology is repackaged gnosticism. People love the idea that they can learn secrets which will free them from the misery of their earthly existence. Pepper generously with a healthy dose of pyramid market, another great way to win the confidence of emotionally destitute suckers and you’ve got a winner
$cientology is even wackier than the abrahamic faiths and hinduism. Evil galactic warlords and the destruction of human aliens by nuclear detonations in volcanoes-are you freaking kidding? Anyone who buys into that pile of B grade sci-fi can’t possibly expect to be taken seriously. Is it any wonder that Tom Cruise is seen as such a fool nowadays? It never ceases to amaze me what outrageous things people will believe in without any shred of evidence to back it up.
Alex.
you said it Alex. I can’t wait for the arguments that since parts of it are true, it might all be true, or at least have value. I am going to personally squash that line of reasoning before it starts. That is like arguing the truth of Chrisitanity because it prohibits murder. Talk about affirming the consequent.
believing scientology(or any religion) today is like walking into high school still believing in santa claus and bragging about it….sooner or later someone is in for an ass-kicking for the sheer stupidity of it
Except that there is no organization that I know of that systematically abuses children in the name of Santa Claus.
http://whyaretheydead.net/krasel/aff_tb.html
Zac:
??? How so? I’m genuinely curious.
Zac:
Maybe LRH was right, in this much at least: some people ARE psychologically deficient.
$cientologists prove this by their very existence.
r4d:
The worst part of that entire paragraph (besides all of it)?
I’ve heard better explanations from HS stoners, back in my day.
A 10 yr old child could come up w/something more imaginative.
Zac:
Hey, don’t insult comic book writers. I’ve read some pretty intense material in graphic novels. Very well written too.
Fact is, if memory serves, LRH was complaining to a # of fellow SF writers, that it would be easier to create a religion than to get published.
Hmmm…guess he was right again.
Intercaust:
Sorry! Accidentally deleted your post (multiple apologies!).
Oops. Was blasting away at spam, whacked you instead.
Here it is again.
Intercaust [Member]
L. Ron’s son said his dad was a speed addict. And that he wrote Dianetics all whacked out on speed.
i think issac is forgetting the fact that he taught kids about the “clit” in bigger, longer, and uncut. the guys also does frito lays commercials…large value base.
money is great until they infringe upon your religious belief (screw everyone else)…
by the way, didn’t he sing about his “salty, chocolate balls?”
i don’t know, it just seems like his words are falling on my deaf ears.
I went to the Wikipedia to find about the Scientologist set of beliefs and found something about the “Xenu Incident”. Go and read! I am sure ther will be something to say about it.
“For instance, Hubbard’s 1958 book Have You Lived Before This Life? documents past lives described by individual Scientologists during auditing sessions. These included memories of being “deceived into a love affair with a robot decked out as a beautiful red-haired girl”, being run over by a Martian bishop driving a steamroller, being transformed into an intergalactic walrus that perished after falling out of a flying saucer, and recalling life as “a very happy being who strayed to the planet Nostra 23,064,000,000 years ago.”"
I cannot help but laugh. I laugh at the whole “sacrificing himself to himself to save his own creation from his own wrath due to a need for a change in a rule he made himself” of Christianity…but that’s hillarious. Walrus?
I find Star Wars much more believable than $cientology.
Jedi is a reconised religion in Australia now.
Zac:
Never mind about the Gnostic question. You are correct: $cientology is indeed a repackage of an old formula.
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back on topic issac hayes is just being a petty little asshat its ok to make fun of everybody else but make fun of my religion no way
anadrol:
Jedi is a reconised religion in Australia now.
Urban myth, during the last census there was a campaign in Australia (And here in the UK) to convince people to put their religion down as Jedi on the grounds that if 10,000 people signed up it would have to be recognised as an “official” religion. Way more people than this were involved but in truth no such arbitrary cut-off point exists, the Office of National Statistics and whatever the Australian equivalent is has no power to grant official status to a religion (Whatever that means anyway) and the votes were basically considered as “None of the above”.
i am suprissed no one posted this yet http://www.scientology.org/
Scuese me wizards – for those who want toe entire take on Scientology check out this website. Protected by Finland as free expression – the international copyright battle ended here.
http://www.xenu.net/
On line for 10 years now – and you, too can read what Tom and Isaac believe…without paying the ~$500,000.00 to learn.
ENjoy! (Except you, Phredummy – you go to http://www.army.gov and sign right up)
The “xenu” site Darrow mentions also has the (audio only) South Park episode on Scientology. (BIG file!) I thought it very interesting and not as bad as I was expecting. It seemed to me that they were mostly making fun of the actors. Their dislike of the church leaders seemed very serious. They actually seemed sympathetic to the people being suckered by these guys.
Jsbrown,
Sorry for the delayed response to your post; somehow I missed it earlier.
Your points are good. Much of Scientology IS juvenile and genuine laughter can be the key to getting people to see things more clearly. I am all in favor in anything which gets people to use think more instead of the automatic reactions I see all too often (even here). My main concern is that mean-spirited ?humor? seems to encourage emotional reactions rather than thinking. Though from the one episode of South Park I have heard, they are not too bad.
Deadly Doomham,
I saw Orgazmo and it’s pretty lame but it does take some nice shots at the Mormon ideas.
OT NEWS (again, sorry)::
Paramount has hired Ronald Harwood (of ‘Pianist’ fame) to pen the script for the upcoming Dover trial movie!! AWESOMENESS IN SPADES!!
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=13642
Wasn’t the atheist show about people standing up to the molestation problems by leaving Catholicism and stating “We should all be atheists”. At the end they even made nice comments about religion isn’t all bad if I remember correctly.
DARROW, thanks for your mail
and your good words.
Much (and how!) appreciated!
P.S.
I won’t spill the guts on Bruce Wayne.
Now I fully understand why scientology exists. I read the wikipedia article and went to
http://www.xenu.net/
They exist to entertain us. I laughed so hard and forcebly at work, near my boss, that I had a revelation. They are here to make my life better by being the perfect object of ridicule. And to think, Isaac Hayes and Tom Cruise are right there with them…I am so happy today.
in a word…Xenu
ZOMGWTFBBQPWNZOR!
All religion exists to entertain our little fancies. Why else would it exist?
Why else would it exist?
World domination!
Frying Pantheist,
Thanks for clearing that up, but at what stage does it beome a reconised religion? 100,000 people, 1 million.
I thought it was kinda cool. is FSMism
a reconised religion yet?
There isn’t a ‘point’. I’m not entirely sure that the government goes by numbers or anything.
World domination seems like a “little fancy” to me.
Scientology- someone above mentioned that Hubbard was complaining it would be easier to create a relgion than get published….
I read, somewhere on the net a few years back, that Hubbard made a bet with another Sci-Fi writer that he could create a religion and get people to fall for it…
The other writer may have been Azimov, but I’m not certain.
Well.. if that’s true… I guess Hubbard won his bet… and got himself bloody wealthy as an aside !
For my part, I’m a fan of Science Fiction… and I got into it because of Star Trek, and it’s commonly anti-religious messages (TNG’s “Who Watches the Watchers” being one of the strongest)….
Hubbard wrote several sci-fi novels; none very good in my opinion… the irony… if he had marketed his Dianetics book as a sci-fi novel… he might have had a pretty good piece of fiction on his hands.
If read with one’s tongue firmly in cheek…
On the topic of Isaac Hayes… I didn’t know he was a scientologist…
I know Nichole Kidman is, or was.. and I like her as an actress. But, the most famous scientologists to me were always Cruise and Travolta.
And I nearly ruptured some part of my anatomy laughing my head off at SP’s imitation of Travolta !
Hayes comes off as one of those who love a good joke, as long as it is at the other fellows expense.
I haven’t seen the Atheist episode, but I’d give it a look, and a laugh.
My favorite SP: The one where the kids go to a planet where these aliens speak a one-word language (Marklar)- Pat Robertson takes a starship to convert them all to Jesus… and Sally Struthers (drawn as Jabba the Hutt) helps Cartman and the gang get a ship to beat Robertson to the planet… for a supply of chocolate.
Seeing Pat Robertson portrated as an emissary of intergalactic evil just.. somehow made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
And a religion is…?
More often than not, a barely-legal money making scam…
Someone at work today commented that Donald “The Donald” Trump has “more money than God”….
And it made me analyze… how much money does God have… well
How much money does each church take in every year ?
Add up all the money that churches take in and work it out… and what you get is that no-one has more money … than God
I knew a Christian family when I lived in Texas who donated over $3000 a year to their church.
A member of this family died in early December… from a heart attack that could have been prevented had he sought medical care early on… and yet he didn’t feel he could afford to go to the doctor for a checkup….
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