http://wrightwing.net/2006/03/09/19/47/255
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Thanks Tom. I think.
darrow loved that last post
Darrow, that’s a really good point (and a funny example).
But if what we are doing here really is analogous to convincing a jury, shouldn’t we try to do it with the same sort of style and class the one would exhibit in a court of law? I mean, in your example the witness is simply given enough rope to hang himself – no “phuck you”s necessary. That’s class.
Not that I haven’t been known to start hurling expletives whenever I’ve become especially incensed at phreedm and others, but I’m sure I’d never get away with it in a court of law.
r4d,
I’ve long been of the opinion that the use of expletives is and indication that the authour’s emotions have defeated his/her reason. It happens to us all, but it is more gratifying when one witnesses it happen to one’s opponent than to oneself.
We can all see what phreedm is all about. That asswipe lost the right to be engaged in a conversation a long time ago IMHO. He?s a natural born asshole with his religious dogma providing fuel for the fire. Since this blog is his favorite punching bag I think he deserves every punch back we can give him. Phuck him.
do you guys think phreedm should be banned and all of his post deleted or just be banned outright
udonman
Absolutely not to both horns of this false dilema. While I may rail against some of phreedm’s opinionsI stongly support his right to make them – and sometimes am prodded to do some independent research because of them.
I have no problem with deleting spam, but I object in the strongest possible terms to the idea that only certain view point are acceptable.
If you don’t like or agree with phreedm’s posts, you have the option to argue against them, or ignore them.
Summary deletion is the route of bullies and cowards.
heathenz I was going to make the same point I was just waiting for some one else to jump I dont agree at all with freedom but i would rather debate the troll than agree with some one who cnnot make there point in an inteligent or insightful manor
I don’t know what the difference is between the two.
But I don’t think phreddy should be banned.
He is a constant reminder of what we are up against.
He is also his own worst enemy, and makes Christians look pathetic.
I’m with HeatheNZ-argue or ignore.
Personally, I think it would be best if we could all learn to ignore him and not take his bait.
Is there another option in which you could reach through the internet and bitch-slap him?
but to tell you the truth when it comes to phreedm he has been preachy and he has been hateful but then again I have been known to be vulgar every so often which would qualify for some of my post to be deleted to
karen if i could reach out and slap him i would phreedm that is not heathenz and all i meant was
pasta said
I took that as an opening is all
Your points are well taken HeatheNZ. I expressed a desire to eliminate him from the blog in another thread but I can see Dave?s reasoning for allowing him to remain. However I think one unforeseen side effect from his presence here is the fighting among fellow atheists. Maybe I?m way off base on this but I think when phreedm starts pissing people off that that anger kind of gets spread around to everybody else. If a decision is made to eliminate him I would vote to let all his previous posts remain so people can see for themselves what an asshole he is. Dave can do whatever he wants. I?ll respect whatever decision he makes.
heathenz and karen i can barely stay awake here so i will talk to you two later bye tony
pasta
I know what you mean, but we really can’t blame phred for our in-fighting.
Sometimes we fly off the handle and we have to acecept responsibility for that. We’re letting him-and others-get to us, and sometimes taking it out on each other.
We can get as angry as we want with whomever, but how we handle that anger is up to us individually.
)
I know I’ve been pretty childish at times. (Sometimes I’ve even regretted it.
udonman
G’night Tony. Hey-How’s the solid food goin’?
Pasta,
If atheists are in-fighting that is their responsibility. I think you are giving phreedm too much credit. He’s certainly provocative – but then who among us isn’t? Could it be that he is just better at it than the majority here?
Love him or hate him (just an expression) you have to admire his ability to get under people’s skin.
PLV:
Since I’m 1 of the prime offenders here, this is my MO:
If someone’s wrong (or I just think they’re wrong), I’m going to speak up. People are people, they make errors, including myself.
Whether it’s a popular opinion or not, I feel obliged to say something.
I’ve always marched to the beat of a different drummer.
But I do know how to dance. It’s just not…what people expect.
No Karen we can?t but I do think he plays a bigger part in it than we may realize. We?re only human.
Maybe I am HeatheNZ.
For sure he can get under your skin HeatheNZ, but I cannot admire that. I detest it.
PLV:
Hmmmm…sowing dissention among the ranks? That’s his aim (not hard to figure out), but I dunno.
I see him as our court jester. Comic relief.
Far as I know, he hasn’t influenced me. But I’ll think about it.
Reluctant
Indeed you do, and a good dancer you are my friend.
PLV:
Oy, see, you made me blush.
Danke.
Comment from: rainbows4dinosaurs [Member] ? http://www.pogoto.com
Interesting comments. Exactly where did you get your numbers from? As abortion factories are less regulated then veterinary clinics.
But for the sake of discussion…
Only 10%…? Let’s see. Roughly 1.3 million aborions a year as recorded by the CDC. So let’s see, according to your nonchalant attitude that would leave only 130,00 3rd trimester abortions. A rather significant number.
And here is the real kicker. You accept it by believing “no brain” ” no pain”. I have yet to find a pro death advocate that will accurately describe what happens during an abortion. Why not? Even a 2nd trimester abortion. Kill it with a saline solution, then rip the legs and arms from the torso for easier removal. Why can’t you face facts?
Can you honestly turn your back on these facts all in the name of choice?
http://www.holtz.org/library/Natural%20Science/Biology/Physiology/Can%20a%20fetus%20feel%20pain.htm
Once again you misrepresent the truth. Why?
http://www.obgyn.net/infertility/articles/perloesills_fewerrisks.htm
Actually neither do I. But you’re getting warm in describing the Mormon theology…
Proving my point. No one is really prochoice. Everyone has an agenda.
Were you raised on Captain Planet? Raped by private corporations? LOLOL….
You must of been tired when you posted this response. Not a big deal. Life’s tough sometimes and we all get worn down.
Bottom line…if one were intellectually honest they’d see that the “Prochoice” view of abortion if similar to the “Pro slave” view of 200 years ago.
Nonhuman. No personhood. Personal Property(it’s my body).
Not that anyone asked but in my beliefs a child is a gift. Something to nurture and provide for.
Not property. Not a possession.
But that raises another obstacle. For if a child is a gift, Who is the gift giver?
phreedm
The term Darrow used was child in utero as opposed to child post utero. It seems to me you are deliberately ignoring that qualification.
Most of you have dirty minds….
You have to Pucker-up to kiss somebody.
Phuck-you is a kiss-off – sort of the Mafia “last kiss” and the system has no problem with it.
If I wanted to say F*U*C*K I well could.
Yeah, Phredummy is a personal attack, but I don’t think that he can understand it.
Oh, The intact extraction is very, very rare and only used to avoid major abdominal surgery where a non-viable fetus is involved. I can provide stats from The New England Journal – but it is copywritten. I’ll see if a public domain source has the info – but Bush removed most of this from he CDC long ago.
Phredummy, if he is ever lucky enough to get married, and unlucky enough to have a major second or third trimester death of the couple’s child in utero (it happens – see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=PubMed&term=third+trimester+fetal+diseases&tool=QuerySuggestion ) where Phredummy’s spouse could die and nothing can save a deceased fetus, I have no doubt that Phredummy’s love for his wife will override his political antagonism towards a medical procedure.
Why, most medical procedures are pretty gross where a lay-person is involved.
So Phredummy – your wife or her life?
as if 6 trillion dollars wasnt enough to keep us “secure”
Normally I don’t respond to responses made out of hate but there’s a nugget of truth that slipped here and needs to be pointed out.
Comment from: Darrow [Member]
Yes, I agree. It is a child in the second and third trimester.
Want to see phreedm in action?
Go here if you dare:
http://rds.yahoo.com/TID=V012_111/S=96781308/K=ultrachrist/v=2/OID=d2c49236242d75e8/SID=w/l=VDP/;_ylt=A9FJqGflABtEe04AHc38w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12a1q1p4k/EXP=1142706789/*-http://www.leisuresuit.net/ultrachrist/trailer_low.asx
Lets try that again. Previous link wasn’t completely in the box. Wouldn’t want you to miss the chance to see the illustrious phreedm in action.
http://www.leisuresuit.net/ultrachrist/trailer_low.asx
So Phredummy – wife and child die for the glory of your dogma.
Compassion at the hilt!
Somehow, I doubt that you will ever father a child – absent your donations to a sperm bank.