Comments on: Who missed the point? http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/29/who_missed_the_point A Blog of Atheist Thought Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:40:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: lapo http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/29/who_missed_the_point/comment-page-1#comment-25203 lapo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-25203 Actually even amongst xtian the core values and the value systems are pretty broad (fundies vs. liberal). She seems to me a classical opinionated person with only superficial knowledge of the facts (a frequent disease in this country), in reality... an ignorant. Actually even amongst xtian the core values and the value systems are pretty broad (fundies vs. liberal). She seems to me a classical opinionated person with only superficial knowledge of the facts (a frequent disease in this country), in reality… an ignorant.

]]> By: stevestory http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/29/who_missed_the_point/comment-page-1#comment-25204 stevestory Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-25204 I don't know what you guys find offensive. We do pick our value systems, and Americans don't prefer to elect us because they don't understand it. I don’t know what you guys find offensive. We do pick our value systems, and Americans don’t prefer to elect us because they don’t understand it.

]]> By: flanonblvr http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/29/who_missed_the_point/comment-page-1#comment-25205 flanonblvr Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-25205 i'm confused, dave. her quote says "America prefers".... you say "america would never let". she says" atheist values are chosen, not established" and you say our morals "come from oureselves, not some external force"<br /> <br /> by my interpretation you are exagerating and mis representing what she said.<br /> <br /> and like stevestory said, we do pick our values rather than have them crammed down out throats.<br /> <br /> i really don't find what she said offensive either. i’m confused, dave. her quote says “America prefers”…. you say “america would never let”. she says” atheist values are chosen, not established” and you say our morals “come from oureselves, not some external force”

by my interpretation you are exagerating and mis representing what she said.

and like stevestory said, we do pick our values rather than have them crammed down out throats.

i really don’t find what she said offensive either.

]]> By: island57 http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/29/who_missed_the_point/comment-page-1#comment-25206 island57 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-25206 Now I don't know what to think. But, I do find this all very interesting. Now I don’t know what to think. But, I do find this all very interesting.

]]> By: spanders http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/29/who_missed_the_point/comment-page-1#comment-25207 spanders Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-25207 what I think is interesting is the "established" part. I think if you are to focus on that word and disect its meaning, you may find that even people (like myself) involved with religion choose values based on emphasis in interpretation. As an example, most christians I know are pro life (anti choice... however you like to describe), but I chose pro choice. We interpret the bible differently. We choose all the time. We've had this discussion before and my understanding is that we all have baseline morality founded on our need to co-exist (an established value system) and have variations on that base foundation based on personal history and personal choice. To conclude, we all choose value systems whether it's a conscious decision or not. what I think is interesting is the “established” part. I think if you are to focus on that word and disect its meaning, you may find that even people (like myself) involved with religion choose values based on emphasis in interpretation. As an example, most christians I know are pro life (anti choice… however you like to describe), but I chose pro choice. We interpret the bible differently. We choose all the time. We’ve had this discussion before and my understanding is that we all have baseline morality founded on our need to co-exist (an established value system) and have variations on that base foundation based on personal history and personal choice. To conclude, we all choose value systems whether it’s a conscious decision or not.

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