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	<title>Comments on: AU Wins in CA on ID</title>
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		<title>By: mw66</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/17/au_wins_in_ca_on_id/comment-page-1#comment-23193</link>
		<dc:creator>mw66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray to the AU! What was most hilarious about this case was the flip-flop position of the DI, first railing about &quot;Darwinist&quot; censors, then turning against the class themselves when they realized it was pushing a YEC point of view.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not exactly apropos of this, but I thought folks here might appreciate my little rant over on my movie blog where I ridicule the fundies who have just gone berserk over that horrible homo movie Brokeback Mountain winning the Golden Globe. ID is not the only thing these people lie about. There&#039;s nothing they &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; lie about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray to the AU! What was most hilarious about this case was the flip-flop position of the DI, first railing about &#8220;Darwinist&#8221; censors, then turning against the class themselves when they realized it was pushing a YEC point of view.</p>
<p>Not exactly apropos of this, but I thought folks here might appreciate my little rant over on my movie blog where I ridicule the fundies who have just gone berserk over that horrible homo movie Brokeback Mountain winning the Golden Globe. ID is not the only thing these people lie about. There&#8217;s nothing they <i>don&#8217;t</i> lie about.</p>
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		<title>By: mw66</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/17/au_wins_in_ca_on_id/comment-page-1#comment-23194</link>
		<dc:creator>mw66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. Address for said rant here.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://tinyurl.com/dpty7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Address for said rant here.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/dpty7" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/dpty7</a></p>
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		<title>By: Living in Hell</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/17/au_wins_in_ca_on_id/comment-page-1#comment-23196</link>
		<dc:creator>Living in Hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agree that the teachers sounded qualified (note the extreme sarcasm) to teach the class that shouldn&#039;t have existed in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;
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-J?r?me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree that the teachers sounded qualified (note the extreme sarcasm) to teach the class that shouldn&#8217;t have existed in the first place.</p>
<p>-J?r?me</p>
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		<title>By: Living in Hell</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/17/au_wins_in_ca_on_id/comment-page-1#comment-23201</link>
		<dc:creator>Living in Hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also off topic. I know this isn&#039;t a political board, but I have to say: http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060117100509990009&amp;ncid=NWS00010000000001&lt;br /&gt;
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Go Hillary, finally, a respected political office holder has the guts to say it outright and honestly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also off topic. I know this isn&#8217;t a political board, but I have to say: <a href="http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060117100509990009&amp;ncid=NWS00010000000001" rel="nofollow">http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060117100509990009&amp;ncid=NWS00010000000001</a></p>
<p>Go Hillary, finally, a respected political office holder has the guts to say it outright and honestly!</p>
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		<title>By: reluctantatheist</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/17/au_wins_in_ca_on_id/comment-page-1#comment-23211</link>
		<dc:creator>reluctantatheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mw66:&lt;br /&gt;
I assume that&#039;s your website?&lt;br /&gt;
If so, you should be able to enter it into your member profile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mw66:<br />
I assume that&#8217;s your website?<br />
If so, you should be able to enter it into your member profile.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/17/au_wins_in_ca_on_id/comment-page-1#comment-23212</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic: Today should go down in history for the Supreme Court upholding the &lt;br /&gt;
Oregon law. I thought it was impossible in today&#039;s climate. Maybe this is a dream, because I can&#039;t believe one of these judges isn&#039;t towing the party line. Comments?&lt;br /&gt;
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Richard of Ventura (wherever that is)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic: Today should go down in history for the Supreme Court upholding the <br />
Oregon law. I thought it was impossible in today&#8217;s climate. Maybe this is a dream, because I can&#8217;t believe one of these judges isn&#8217;t towing the party line. Comments?</p>
<p>Richard of Ventura (wherever that is)</p>
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		<title>By: natasha</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/17/au_wins_in_ca_on_id/comment-page-1#comment-23213</link>
		<dc:creator>natasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chief Justice Roberts&#039; first decision and he sided with Scalia and Thomas against the other six.  Thunder on soundtrack.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chief Justice Roberts&#8217; first decision and he sided with Scalia and Thomas against the other six.  Thunder on soundtrack.</p>
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		<title>By: mw66</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/17/au_wins_in_ca_on_id/comment-page-1#comment-23214</link>
		<dc:creator>mw66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, reluctant. Done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, reluctant. Done.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmerone</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/17/au_wins_in_ca_on_id/comment-page-1#comment-23219</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmerone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good decision. Isn&#039;t it telling about the character o the ID leadership. They let the teacher fend for herself and even had the audacity to criticize the curriculum. What a bunch o gutless loons. I&#039;ll bet they didn&#039;t mind selling the course to the shool district. Maybe that teacher will come to her senses and realize that ID is BS. Hopefully she&#039;ll take time to think about how easily her side gave in.&lt;br /&gt;
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JIM  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good decision. Isn&#8217;t it telling about the character o the ID leadership. They let the teacher fend for herself and even had the audacity to criticize the curriculum. What a bunch o gutless loons. I&#8217;ll bet they didn&#8217;t mind selling the course to the shool district. Maybe that teacher will come to her senses and realize that ID is BS. Hopefully she&#8217;ll take time to think about how easily her side gave in.</p>
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JIM</p>
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		<title>By: rainbows4dinosaurs</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2006/01/17/au_wins_in_ca_on_id/comment-page-1#comment-23225</link>
		<dc:creator>rainbows4dinosaurs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They let the teacher fend for herself and even had the audacity to criticize the curriculum.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The reason that the Discovery Institute flip-flopped on this case is because they realized it wasn&#039;t an &#039;ID&#039; class at all - it was clearly a biblically literal, young earth creationism class using the term &#039;Design&#039; simply because it is currently the most successful creationist meme. The DI is trying really hard to at least &lt;i&gt;sound&lt;/i&gt; like a legitimate science organization to the lay public, and being linked to the &#039;Answers In Genesis&#039; crowd isn&#039;t going to help their cause. The paradox is that they rely heavily on donations from evangelical organizations and the popularity of their &#039;movement&#039; is clearly dependent on the zealousness of these fundamentalists. &lt;br /&gt;
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Talk about trying to have your cake and eat it too.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They let the teacher fend for herself and even had the audacity to criticize the curriculum.</p></blockquote>
<p>The reason that the Discovery Institute flip-flopped on this case is because they realized it wasn&#8217;t an &#8216;ID&#8217; class at all &#8211; it was clearly a biblically literal, young earth creationism class using the term &#8216;Design&#8217; simply because it is currently the most successful creationist meme. The DI is trying really hard to at least <i>sound</i> like a legitimate science organization to the lay public, and being linked to the &#8216;Answers In Genesis&#8217; crowd isn&#8217;t going to help their cause. The paradox is that they rely heavily on donations from evangelical organizations and the popularity of their &#8216;movement&#8217; is clearly dependent on the zealousness of these fundamentalists. </p>
<p>Talk about trying to have your cake and eat it too.</p>
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