What was the xmas song?

If Jesus were alive today (assuming he was an historic personality and not a Christian invention), would he be an atheist?

Jesus was fed up with the religious establishment and his belligerence turned into a cultic offshoot of Judaism; or, as someone once noted, the world’s most successful cult.

But atheism was not a rational option to a Jew living in Palestine 2,000 years ago.

Your thoughts???

I think he would have been a cult leader – you know, give up all your worldly possessions, leave your family, and follow me.

I think he would have have been fairly non-violent – he might have done something like go destroy the 700 Club’s facilities for misuse of church funds (you know, along the lines of chasing the moneychangers out of the temple) – but don’t think he’d be like David Koresh or Jim Jones.

If Jesus was an athiest he would have kept it very quiet indeed!

Jesus was fed up with the religious establishment

Here’s an interesting title for you – Andrew Harvey’s Son of Man , very interesting (albeit a tad on the new agey side, if memory serves).
1 of his points was that JC was a rebel w/a cause, upsetting the apple cart, etc.
SNTC might appreciate this title too, as the 2nd 1/2 of the book is devoted to Mary, & the feminine side that’s so downplayed in the history.

I read this some yrs ago, so some of my observations may be a bit off.

I thought Harvey came off as a Gnostic, but I tend to be a revisionist, so wadoo I know?
(that’s a bit of self-effacing humor, just so it’s not deliberately misinterpreted, BTW).

We usually celibrate the solstice by ourselves by opening presents, a big dinner and a log on the fire on the 21st then we spend christmas with our extended family members on the 25th. My kids LOVE it! They get two holidays of presents.

And I agree if Jesus was an atheist he would have kept it to himself.

When my husband went to Iraq the first time and he had to stay in Kuwiat(sp? brainfart)for a few days before heading over to Iraq he was warned not to say anything about his atheism in both places. Most of the ME is pretty intolerent of atheism from my understanding.

Just when I was starting to really miss you, there you are.

I have been reading up on the Gosples of Mary and I really am looking forward to the Sophia of Jesus. I dont know if it was a conspiracy, but there sure is a lot of covering up going on when it comes to the female aspect of religion. In EVERY religion that I have looked into there is evidence of the patriarch trying to hide(and in some cases very badly) the fact that god was once worsshipped as a goddess or had a female consort. Have you noticed that as well?

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/sjc.html