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	<title>Comments on: War on Christmas is War on Truth</title>
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		<title>By: alexgator1</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/12/14/title_7/comment-page-1#comment-18632</link>
		<dc:creator>alexgator1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry Falwell and his ilk have to perpetuate this sense of xtian victimhood and threats to xianity in order to scare the flock into sending money.  The nonexistant &quot;War on Christmas&quot; is the same as the &quot;War Against Traditional Marriage&quot; and uses an easily demonized and often quiet group of people to incite panic and get the donations and votes rolling in.  Without a sense of impending doom and victimazation the RR would be unable to hold onto it&#039;s influence.&lt;br /&gt;
Alex.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry Falwell and his ilk have to perpetuate this sense of xtian victimhood and threats to xianity in order to scare the flock into sending money.  The nonexistant &#8220;War on Christmas&#8221; is the same as the &#8220;War Against Traditional Marriage&#8221; and uses an easily demonized and often quiet group of people to incite panic and get the donations and votes rolling in.  Without a sense of impending doom and victimazation the RR would be unable to hold onto it&#8217;s influence.<br />
Alex.</p>
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		<title>By: rainbows4dinosaurs</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/12/14/title_7/comment-page-1#comment-18634</link>
		<dc:creator>rainbows4dinosaurs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kinda funny, because if one tries hard enough one can remember when &quot;Happy Holidays&quot; was simply an abbreviation of &quot;Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.&quot; It later evolved to include Hanukkah, then Kwanzaa, then even Thanksgiving - all with the very american intent of maximizing returns from this very important shopping season. &lt;br /&gt;
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Do americans really have such short memories? (I&#039;m not really asking. I know the answer, unfortunately)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kinda funny, because if one tries hard enough one can remember when &#8220;Happy Holidays&#8221; was simply an abbreviation of &#8220;Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.&#8221; It later evolved to include Hanukkah, then Kwanzaa, then even Thanksgiving &#8211; all with the very american intent of maximizing returns from this very important shopping season. </p>
<p>Do americans really have such short memories? (I&#8217;m not really asking. I know the answer, unfortunately)</p>
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		<title>By: mryder66</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/12/14/title_7/comment-page-1#comment-18638</link>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, my vote for many years has been &quot;Bah Humbug&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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That kind of sums up my feeling on the commercial xmas season.&lt;br /&gt;
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Having said that I do like the actual day.  Being with family, and the giving and receiving of MODEST presents is very pleasant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, my vote for many years has been &#8220;Bah Humbug&#8221;</p>
<p>That kind of sums up my feeling on the commercial xmas season.</p>
<p>Having said that I do like the actual day.  Being with family, and the giving and receiving of MODEST presents is very pleasant.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/12/14/title_7/comment-page-1#comment-18641</link>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole thing about Christmas is that it was founded as a religious holiday.  That would be like you guys starting an athiest holiday and then I wanted to change it to fit my beliefs.  If you had a holiday and I disagreed with it, I&#039;d simply ignore it or simply concern myself with holidays that suit me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole thing about Christmas is that it was founded as a religious holiday.  That would be like you guys starting an athiest holiday and then I wanted to change it to fit my beliefs.  If you had a holiday and I disagreed with it, I&#8217;d simply ignore it or simply concern myself with holidays that suit me.</p>
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		<title>By: mryder66</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/12/14/title_7/comment-page-1#comment-18643</link>
		<dc:creator>mryder66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon Jerry,&lt;br /&gt;
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Xmas is a Roman replacement for the celebration of the (Northern hemisphere) winter solstice.  The Romans were apt, rather than trying to eradicate existing festivals, merely rebrand them to fit within the roman gestalt.&lt;br /&gt;
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Eventually they hope that people will be ignorant enough of their own history to believe that the current situation was always in its current form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Jerry,</p>
<p>Xmas is a Roman replacement for the celebration of the (Northern hemisphere) winter solstice.  The Romans were apt, rather than trying to eradicate existing festivals, merely rebrand them to fit within the roman gestalt.</p>
<p>Eventually they hope that people will be ignorant enough of their own history to believe that the current situation was always in its current form.</p>
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		<title>By: say_no_to_christ</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/12/14/title_7/comment-page-1#comment-18644</link>
		<dc:creator>say_no_to_christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R4D&lt;br /&gt;
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You read my mind! And I am only 34, so it wasnt even that long ago that happy holidays was ment to cover the three major holidays. &lt;br /&gt;
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Fundies remind me of selfesh 3 year olds that want everything all to them selves. &lt;br /&gt;
I wish they would just grow up already!&lt;br /&gt;
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When I hear people say silly things like atheists taking christ out of christmas. I like to remind them that there were many othter savior gods born dec 25 and most scholars agree that Jesus was NOT born during the winter but most likely during the warmer months according to the bible. &lt;br /&gt;
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So maybe us atheist and pagans should take back OUR holiday? lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R4D</p>
<p>You read my mind! And I am only 34, so it wasnt even that long ago that happy holidays was ment to cover the three major holidays. </p>
<p>Fundies remind me of selfesh 3 year olds that want everything all to them selves. <br />
I wish they would just grow up already!</p>
<p>When I hear people say silly things like atheists taking christ out of christmas. I like to remind them that there were many othter savior gods born dec 25 and most scholars agree that Jesus was NOT born during the winter but most likely during the warmer months according to the bible. </p>
<p>So maybe us atheist and pagans should take back OUR holiday? lol</p>
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		<title>By: say_no_to_christ</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/12/14/title_7/comment-page-1#comment-18652</link>
		<dc:creator>say_no_to_christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry &lt;br /&gt;
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You should check this site out.&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.religioustolerance.org/xmas_date.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry </p>
<p>You should check this site out.<br />
<a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/xmas_date.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.religioustolerance.org/xmas_date.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: say_no_to_christ</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/12/14/title_7/comment-page-1#comment-18657</link>
		<dc:creator>say_no_to_christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a christian site denouncing christmas and easter as pagan holidays. http://www.ccg.org/english/s/p235.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a christian site denouncing christmas and easter as pagan holidays. <a href="http://www.ccg.org/english/s/p235.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ccg.org/english/s/p235.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: gently</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/12/14/title_7/comment-page-1#comment-18658</link>
		<dc:creator>gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think Oreilly invented this thing. I have never heard of anyone in this organization or ANY organization ever stating that saying Merry Christmas to someone is wrong and needs to be changed. Hell, christmas is almost a secular holiday already.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m a lot older than most of you, I would presume, and even when I was a kid many people said Happy Holidays so that ALL the holidays were included. NO ONE EVER SAID A WORD!! No one was ever hurt by that or Merry Christman or Happy Hanukkah or any other utterence for the holiday. I know a few Arabic greetings but I can&#039;t spell them. lol&lt;br /&gt;
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I repeat, I really think this is all made up for publicity and ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think Oreilly invented this thing. I have never heard of anyone in this organization or ANY organization ever stating that saying Merry Christmas to someone is wrong and needs to be changed. Hell, christmas is almost a secular holiday already.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a lot older than most of you, I would presume, and even when I was a kid many people said Happy Holidays so that ALL the holidays were included. NO ONE EVER SAID A WORD!! No one was ever hurt by that or Merry Christman or Happy Hanukkah or any other utterence for the holiday. I know a few Arabic greetings but I can&#8217;t spell them. lol</p>
<p>I repeat, I really think this is all made up for publicity and ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: alexgator1</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/12/14/title_7/comment-page-1#comment-18662</link>
		<dc:creator>alexgator1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is HILARIOUS!&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43438&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is HILARIOUS!<br />
<a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43438" rel="nofollow">http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43438</a></p>
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