OK Frankly I don’t see a problem with Starbucks placing a god message on some of their cups, as they have placed other messages on there too. But I won’t be flying Alaska Airlines any time soon!http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20051019/ts_usatoday/starbucksstirsthingsupwithagodquoteoncups;_ylt=ApO4QYtDXW6wgHg6ZjsTGhWs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ(thanks Allan)
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We sure are crazy bastards! lol We pay $4/ cup of coffee, but bitch and moan when gas goes up to $3/gallon! :-0
Ave Maria. So THAT’S why I never buy Domino’s pizza!
May be a good idea. Centralize all the catholics in one place so we know how to avoid them. Kinda like the Mormons.
Did y’all read about the university? Can’t imagine too many willing participating students.
A 60 foot tall bleeding Jesus! That’s what’s been missing in the world. Bet that’ll jeep the hurricanes away from SW Fla.
so_no – thanks (sniff sniff)
anyway, here’s a quote of my own:
“Make money. Make more money. Make other people make money.” – L. Ron Hubbard
phreedm: As to your Paine quotes,
This 1: “”Where, say some, is the king of America? I’ll tell you, friend, He reigns above.”
is continued thusly:
“Yet, that we may not appear to be defective even in earthly honors, let a day be solemnly set apart for proclaiming the charter; let it be brought forth placed on the divine laws, the word of God; let a crown be placed thereon, by which the world may know that so far as we approve of monarchy, that in America the law is king. For as in absolute governments the king is law, so in free countries the law ought to be king….“
“A government of our own is our natural right: and when a man seriously reflects on the precariousness of human affairs, he will become convinced that it is infinitely wiser and safer to form a constitution of our own in a cool deliberate manner, while we have it in our power, than to trust such an interesting event to time and chance….”
As to this 1: “I would give worlds, if I had them, if “The Age of Reason” had never been published. O Lord, help! Stay with me! It is hell to be left alone.”
If by this you are referring to the alleged deathbed recantation of Paine, that, sir, is incorrect. Yet another lie perpetrated by the religious, which Ingersoll thoroughly refuted back in the 19th century, along w/the errant nonsense about Voltaire.
Ingersoll offered a $1000 in gold to anyone who could prove either of these allegations. No one collected.
If not, apologies.
phreedm: & here:
“Robert Ingersoll, in 1877, gave this version of Paine’s passing: “he died as he had lived. Some ministers were impolite enough to visit him against his will. Several of them he ordered from his room. A couple of Catholic priests, in all the meekness of hypocrisy, called that they might enjoy the agonies of a dying friend of man. Thomas Paine, rising in his bed, the few embers of expiring life blown into flame by the breath of indignation, had the goodness to curse them both. His physician, who seems to have been a meddling fool, just as the cold hand of death was touching the patriot’s heart, whispered in the dull ear of the dying man: “Do you believe, or do you wish to believe, that Jesus Christ is the Son of God?” And the reply was: “I have no wish to believe on that subject.” These were the last remembered words of Thomas Paine.” The pious lie that Paine recanted anything is first found ten years after his death, in a story perpetrated by a Quaker, Mary Roscoe, afterwards Mary Hinsdale, a servant of Mr. Willet Hicks, who lived near the house where Paine died. When questioned, she would not verify that the recantation had occurred. –”
atomictesting: “But apparently you’re too busy looking up quotes that none of us care about.”
Well, since Paine is 1 of my heroes, apparently I care.
Karen
LMAO! you said:”A 60 foot tall bleeding Jesus! That’s what’s been missing in the world. Bet that’ll jeep the hurricanes away from SW Fla.”
How creepy, a bleeding Jesus. This worship of a bloody dead guy on a stick is just crazy and scary!
SNTC: According to Harlan Ellison, Tierra Del Fuego (down at the tip of S. America) has 2 HUGE statues of JC, 1 for the rich, 1 for the poor. I don’t know if they’re 60 feet tall.
But it has been done before. Nothing new under the sun, ey?
Great quote from Albert Einstein:
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.”
Or from Asimov
“The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not Eureka! (I found it!) but rather, “hmm…. that’s funny….”
and:
“If I were not an atheist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of the totality of their lives and not the pattern of their words”
Also:
“Creationists make it sound as though a ‘theory’ is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night…. “
And this last one that might apply to the previous Pharmacist thread:
“Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what’s right….”
God bless those two heatens
Ha ha ha!
Catholics & their “graven images” pissing contest. Whoever has the biggest bloody jesus on a stick wins eternal life! (thanks sntc)
karen,
at least you can put the price into perspective, who would have though coffe would be more expensive than gas or a few cocktails a happy hour!
Oh, also, latest studies show that coffee is chock full of antioxidants. So it’s good for you. Of course, probably not for the stomach lining.
But does anybody here know exactly what the quote in question says? It isn’t mentioned anywhere in the article. I just read it again to double check. I would love a chance to point out the context of Rick Warren’s lunacy.
Phreedm – Are you a Warren fan? I might be interested in hearing your perspective on the PDL fad sweeping the bible belt.
Hi all,
Please don’t respond to trolls!
A note from Roostah that makes a darn good point.
Jews never write down the word “God”. They write “G-d” because it is against their religion to throw away something with God’s name written on it. I’m not kidding.
BY this logic, Jews have to SAVE their coffee cups and dispose of them in a respectful manner!
David S.
Would you know what the respectful manner requires? To me hitting the trash can/recycle bin is respectful disposal but I’m not Jewish.
David,
which ones are trolls? Is Phreedm a troll? I for one rather enjoy sparing with him. I like to fight. It’s fun.
TXatheist, when i was a boy scout I was thaught the only respectful way of disposing of a flag is to burn it.
Without all that trampling you see in the news though
r4d
PDL fad? What is this?
reluctant
A jesus statue for the rich and one for the poor? I remember reading about the two towering statues. Didn’t know or forgot that one’s rich, one’s poor. Wonder what one’s income must be to switch from the poor statue to the rich one?
If I recall correctly, the one in Ave Maria is INDOORS and of stained glass!
David:
“Jews never write down the word “God”. They write “G-d” because it is against their religion to throw away something with God’s name written on it.”
“Jews have to SAVE their coffee cups and dispose of them in a respectful manner!”
But only if the coffee cup say “G-d” & not “GOD”?
Purpose Driven Life, of course. And then there is also Purpose Driven Ministries and the Purpose Driven Church program that thousands of churches across the country are adopting and Warren’s church is getting super rich off of.
Here’s a pretty good critique of the book:
http://www.letusreason.org/BookR12.htm
Thanks for the welcome RA,
I am currently addicted to SuDoKu, a Japanese game of logic. I think you might enjoy it too….
http://www.sudoku.com/
Hello to all my wonderful atheist friends. I’ve been out of town and away from the blog for a few days. (I hate it when real life gets in the way!)
Wanted to add my $0.02. (Why isn’t there a “cents” key on keyboards anymore?)
I LOVE Starbucks! I have to go de-caf for my health, but I willingly pay $3 for a latte – their coffee is just the best.
About a year ago, I went to the REAL holy land – the ORIGINAL Starbucks in Seattle. Tiny shop across the street from the fish market. One person takes your order, writes on the cup, then throws it to the coffee-maker person on the other side of the counter. Very cute.
I don’t care if Starbucks puts the God quote on their cups – it seems like they’re being pretty even handed. I know Chik-fil-A has the Sunday policy, but I also LOVE their food! They have Veggie-Tales toys and books in their kids’ meals sometimes – it’s a Christian oriented cartoon. Mostly, I’ve never run into overtly religious people at their restaurants. They are usually REALLY friendly and a step above other fast food joints.
However, a few years ago, we were driving through N. Carolina on vacation. There was a guy behind the counter – very nice – very helpful, and he said “Jesus loves you” to everyone when he handed them their food. What do you say to that? He seemed like he wasn’t very intelligent – I didn’t say anything – he just seemed like a simple fast food worker – kinda gave my son the creeps, though!
I do try to avoid businesses with the Jesus fish on their signs. We have a car wash here called “Son Coast Car Wash.” I go to the other car wash. But, it’s hard to avoid Christian companies here – If I didn’t do business with Xians, I’d go hungry!
BTW, I like SNTC’s “bloody guy on a stick” comment!
HZ: hey sure.
Dunno about the game. TV has thoroughly wrecked my attention span. That, & double-cappuchinos.
karen: I recall it from Ellison’s writings (Deathbird Stories or Ellison in Wonderland? I’ll have to look that up). Pretty wild stuff. I think it was Tierra Del Fuego, but it coulda been Rio (unsure).
Heh, my teenager loves Larry the Cucumber from Vegetales. She likes his “silly songs”, and wants a cd filled with them. And she is definitely not a Christian! Teens are wierd, that’s all I know to say.
“So does Barney”?
I broke my best friend from saying “bless you” after a sneeze by saying “no thanks, I’m not actually possessed by any demons, it was just dust”.
Thanks sword, I was a boy scout and a vet and do explain that to anti-flag burners, that you burn the flag to dispose of it properly. I was actually curious how jews dispose of a piece of paper that has the g-d word on it??
I believe that this nation was founded based on religious tolerance. I also believe that those who choose not to believe should tolerate those who choose to have a religion. As a Christain I have had to tolerate Islamic, Jewish, Afrain American rights, and other symbols and quotes I do not necessarily agree with. I wish we would all lern to get along and TOLERATE others beliefs. If you don’t agree don’t read it.
Baylorgirl99: “I believe that this nation was founded based on religious tolerance.”
Agreed, but that was 1 factor. There are others.
“I wish we would all lern to get along and TOLERATE others beliefs.”
Hey, I tolerate other people’s beliefs. I even respect them.
But when my government is hijacked by fanatics, theocracy looms on the horizon, the RR are trying to reconstruct the structure in accordance w/their agenda, well that doesn’t sound much like tolerance to me.
It sounds like Fas-theism to me.
Well, I’m going to take the conversation back to Starbucks now. I know I couldn’t live without my weekly trip to Starbucks. Not only is the coffee and Green tea awesome, it’s a great spot to socialize with friends. There’s nothing like sitting outside, smoking cigarettes, and drinking a mocha. Oh the satisfaction! The funny thing is, I’ve never noticed phrases or quotes on the cups. I usually get a clear cup with the Starbucks logo on them. Are the phrases only on the styrofoam cups?
lacy123
I think the “quote cups” begin in the spring of next year. Not sure.
Went to B&N just the other day and forgot to even look at the cup; just dove into that excellent, expensive java!
Check out the petition!
http://www.petitiononline.com/SB0001/petition.html
woo hoo! I’m petitioner #7!
HZ: Beat me to the punch (D’oh!) I’m # 8.
“I am not a number! I am a man!”
“You are number 6. I am number two.”
A no-prize to whomever can name that show!
I probably won’t notice when they put them on the cups. When I go to Starbucks, I’m there for the coffee, not the cup.
That would be The Prisoner.
What do I get for my no-prize?
HZ: well-done. Your prize is…no-prize.
Ain’t I a tease? Marvel comics used to give out no-prizes to readers who caught specific items in comic books – you know, 1 panel shows Spidey w/his right arm broken, next panel, he’s got a left broken arm, that sort of thing.
Sorry.
All,
I am sure you are aware of the campaign that Starbucks is currently planning on doing. In response I have started a petition that is asking Starbucks to include non-theists quotes too, specifically Atheists and Humanists ones. Please sign the petition and if you have any good quotes please pass them along to me. Please share this with others that might be interested.
http://www.petitiononline.com/SB0001/petition.html
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