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		<title>By: say_no_to_christ</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/10/10/bible_bash_old_testament/comment-page-1#comment-10716</link>
		<dc:creator>say_no_to_christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many I just dont even know where to begin, so I&#039;ll post a link that gets staight to the hate filled messages.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.evilbible.com/&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many I just dont even know where to begin, so I&#8217;ll post a link that gets staight to the hate filled messages.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.evilbible.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.evilbible.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: mryder66</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/10/10/bible_bash_old_testament/comment-page-1#comment-10718</link>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we really restricted to contradictions?  I want to post my current favorite bash: &lt;blockquote&gt;One particularly vile and pointless act is described in the book of Joshua.  God instructs Joshua to kill all the Hazorites.  Not content with doing this, God also has Joshua cripple all the horses that formerly belonged to the unfortunate Hazorites by slicing through their hamstrings (Josh 11).  Little wonder that these acts are not described in Sunday Schools to little girls who dote on ponies. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we really restricted to contradictions?  I want to post my current favorite bash:<br />
<blockquote>One particularly vile and pointless act is described in the book of Joshua.  God instructs Joshua to kill all the Hazorites.  Not content with doing this, God also has Joshua cripple all the horses that formerly belonged to the unfortunate Hazorites by slicing through their hamstrings (Josh 11).  Little wonder that these acts are not described in Sunday Schools to little girls who dote on ponies. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: say_no_to_christ</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/10/10/bible_bash_old_testament/comment-page-1#comment-10719</link>
		<dc:creator>say_no_to_christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HeathNZ&lt;br /&gt;
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I like that idea very much! :)&lt;br /&gt;
There are some real good grusome stories in the bible! Human sacrifice and discriptive tales of war that no one in their right mind would deem as holy acts, but the bible sure does.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Exodus 13:2 &quot;Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me.&quot;  </description>
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<p>I like that idea very much! <img src='http://atheists.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />
There are some real good grusome stories in the bible! Human sacrifice and discriptive tales of war that no one in their right mind would deem as holy acts, but the bible sure does.</p>
<p> Exodus 13:2 &#8220;Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rainbows4dinosaurs</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/10/10/bible_bash_old_testament/comment-page-1#comment-10724</link>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, guys. I&#039;m so over bible bashing at this point in my life. That was like the very first stage of my atheism - finding all the little holes in the good book and delighting in making my sunday school teacher really uncomfortable while incurring the wrath of my father. &lt;br /&gt;
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It amounts to a really weak reason for atheism, as it does nothing in answering the larger question. Plus, any theist worth his or her pillar of salt will have a nice, tidy apologetic answer to every contradiction and blood thirsty act you can dig up. I &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; had fun surprising the more ignorant brand of christian with some seldom mentioned bible trivia, but I&#039;m sure they just go and ask their preacher about it, who then gives them a nice convoluted answer that any reasonable person would find totally bogus but is perfectly acceptable within the distorted framework of religious thought.&lt;br /&gt;
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The bible is a human invention, and thus reflects both the pleasant and unpleasant aspects of human nature. It also reflects an outdated societal model that even the most hardcore christians find impossible to conform to. I guess it&#039;s helpful to point that out to the fence sitters, but the non-religious generally don&#039;t care and the religious won&#039;t even listen. &lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m convinced that the best tactic is to attack the concept of &lt;i&gt;faith&lt;/i&gt; itself. Religious people are so proud that they have &lt;i&gt;faith&lt;/i&gt; - that &lt;i&gt;faith&lt;/i&gt; somehow trumps every other epistemological source out there. Given their strange pride and devotion to the concept of &lt;i&gt;faith&lt;/i&gt;, it just blows me away when they&#039;ll turn around and claim atheism is &#039;just a faith position as well!&#039; We gee then, I guess &lt;i&gt;faith&lt;/i&gt; ain&#039;t all that special after all! &lt;br /&gt;
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Let&#039;s go after the concept of &lt;i&gt;faith&lt;/i&gt; the same way those creationist bastards go after the word &lt;i&gt;theory&lt;/i&gt;. In other words, use their own rhetoric against them. &quot;After all, Christianity is &lt;i&gt;just a faith position&lt;/i&gt;!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, guys. I&#8217;m so over bible bashing at this point in my life. That was like the very first stage of my atheism &#8211; finding all the little holes in the good book and delighting in making my sunday school teacher really uncomfortable while incurring the wrath of my father. </p>
<p>It amounts to a really weak reason for atheism, as it does nothing in answering the larger question. Plus, any theist worth his or her pillar of salt will have a nice, tidy apologetic answer to every contradiction and blood thirsty act you can dig up. I <i>have</i> had fun surprising the more ignorant brand of christian with some seldom mentioned bible trivia, but I&#8217;m sure they just go and ask their preacher about it, who then gives them a nice convoluted answer that any reasonable person would find totally bogus but is perfectly acceptable within the distorted framework of religious thought.</p>
<p>The bible is a human invention, and thus reflects both the pleasant and unpleasant aspects of human nature. It also reflects an outdated societal model that even the most hardcore christians find impossible to conform to. I guess it&#8217;s helpful to point that out to the fence sitters, but the non-religious generally don&#8217;t care and the religious won&#8217;t even listen. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced that the best tactic is to attack the concept of <i>faith</i> itself. Religious people are so proud that they have <i>faith</i> &#8211; that <i>faith</i> somehow trumps every other epistemological source out there. Given their strange pride and devotion to the concept of <i>faith</i>, it just blows me away when they&#8217;ll turn around and claim atheism is &#8216;just a faith position as well!&#8217; We gee then, I guess <i>faith</i> ain&#8217;t all that special after all! </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go after the concept of <i>faith</i> the same way those creationist bastards go after the word <i>theory</i>. In other words, use their own rhetoric against them. &#8220;After all, Christianity is <i>just a faith position</i>!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mryder66</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/10/10/bible_bash_old_testament/comment-page-1#comment-10726</link>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R4D,&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow.  I like it.  ....thinking of a faith smear campaign....&lt;br /&gt;
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Bumper Sticker for stargate Atlantis fans:&lt;blockquote&gt;Feed the Raith with those of Faith&lt;/blockquote&gt;  Too Old Testamentie?&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>Wow.  I like it.  &#8230;.thinking of a faith smear campaign&#8230;.</p>
<p>Bumper Sticker for stargate Atlantis fans:<br />
<blockquote>Feed the Raith with those of Faith</p></blockquote>
<p>  Too Old Testamentie?</p>
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		<title>By: dsilverman</title>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to post gruesome Bible tales as well, go for it.  Have fun.</description>
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		<title>By: rainbows4dinosaurs</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/10/10/bible_bash_old_testament/comment-page-1#comment-10728</link>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Too Old Testamentie?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Hmmm... maybe too geeky ;) I&#039;ve never seen that show. Not that I&#039;m &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; a geek myself.&lt;br /&gt;
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For firefly fans: &quot;Shepherd Book died for your sins.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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oh geezus&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Too Old Testamentie?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; maybe too geeky <img src='http://atheists.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ve never seen that show. Not that I&#8217;m <i>not</i> a geek myself.</p>
<p>For firefly fans: &#8220;Shepherd Book died for your sins.&#8221;</p>
<p>oh geezus</p>
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		<title>By: Tim W</title>
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		<description>If those professing that the bible is without error and is the word of god truly believed that it was, there would be mass genocide of various groups of people:  Gays, youth who disobey his or or parents, divorced people, Sunday Shoppers, Multi-grain bread bakers, seafood eaters and salespeople.  The world would be a very empty place, because the old testament would have them all dead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If those professing that the bible is without error and is the word of god truly believed that it was, there would be mass genocide of various groups of people:  Gays, youth who disobey his or or parents, divorced people, Sunday Shoppers, Multi-grain bread bakers, seafood eaters and salespeople.  The world would be a very empty place, because the old testament would have them all dead!</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<description>rainbows4dinosaurs,&lt;br /&gt;
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I totally agree with you, except that I think you are overlooking just how many fence sitters may actually run across this site. As you say, seasoned atheists won&#039;t really care, and highly faithful theists will not budge either. However, I think there are loads of theists (since this is U.S. I&#039;ll just say Christians) that are just going through the motions, while they juggle the reality of the day-to-day life they know. It is these people that I&#039;m most interested in. A perfect example is our own &quot;reluctant atheist&quot;. Here is a guy that was a theist, but then happened upon a few contradictions and took it upon himself to investigate more. Now, he has done enough research to be a strong debater on the history in/of the bible, and even goes on the offensive with his very own Web site!&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know how to attack faith without solid contradictory evidence. Science will get there, but who knows when. Bible bashing one tactic we can use with some success in my opinion.</description>
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<p>I totally agree with you, except that I think you are overlooking just how many fence sitters may actually run across this site. As you say, seasoned atheists won&#8217;t really care, and highly faithful theists will not budge either. However, I think there are loads of theists (since this is U.S. I&#8217;ll just say Christians) that are just going through the motions, while they juggle the reality of the day-to-day life they know. It is these people that I&#8217;m most interested in. A perfect example is our own &#8220;reluctant atheist&#8221;. Here is a guy that was a theist, but then happened upon a few contradictions and took it upon himself to investigate more. Now, he has done enough research to be a strong debater on the history in/of the bible, and even goes on the offensive with his very own Web site!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how to attack faith without solid contradictory evidence. Science will get there, but who knows when. Bible bashing one tactic we can use with some success in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: rainbows4dinosaurs</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2005/10/10/bible_bash_old_testament/comment-page-1#comment-10732</link>
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		<description>Tim - That&#039;s true, to a reasonable person at least. And every now and then we&#039;ll see somebody try and take their biblical devotion to that extreme. BUT, anybody who spends any amount of time within the strange world of religious adherence and fellowship will see that bible scholars have a system of beautifully complicated apologetics in place to answer any question that the may bible beg. &lt;br /&gt;
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To us, these answers sound ridiculous. But they are not meant for us, they are meant for those who&#039;ve have already bought in and who are looking for any excuse to rationalize their own choice to believe. &lt;br /&gt;
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The human mind is an amazing acrobat.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8211; That&#8217;s true, to a reasonable person at least. And every now and then we&#8217;ll see somebody try and take their biblical devotion to that extreme. BUT, anybody who spends any amount of time within the strange world of religious adherence and fellowship will see that bible scholars have a system of beautifully complicated apologetics in place to answer any question that the may bible beg. </p>
<p>To us, these answers sound ridiculous. But they are not meant for us, they are meant for those who&#8217;ve have already bought in and who are looking for any excuse to rationalize their own choice to believe. </p>
<p>The human mind is an amazing acrobat.</p>
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