Looks like New Orleans is in for it. I hope the forecasters are wrong, but it doesn’t look good. Perhaps fundies will say something stupid like “God is smiting all the fun people”, like when Pat Robertson predicted Hurricanes at Disney World as punishment for Disney allowing gay benefits. You can be sure there will be “miracles” of survival, but nobody will mention the miracle of a category-5 hurricane hitting a great city head-on.I love New Orleans. Good luck down there!
You definatly speak for me reluctantatheist. I’m all for xtians thinking what they want, but they push their beliefs on others, which is not right. Just imagine if we took up their tactics. Going door to door asking them to try out atheism. Walking down the street forcing people to take flyers about how atheism is the right path. Glaring at anyone who wears cross jewelry. It would be crazy! And the worst part is, we can’t tell them what they’re turning the government into because they think it’s a good thing! I wish they could just step back and see all the conflict that religion causes, and stop it! That’s how we get world peace, end religion, or make sure everyone has the same religion, like Brave New World, but then that wouldn’t be very good anyways.
Dangerman
You remind me of one of the best song ever written:
Imagine
Imagine there’s no heaven,
It’s easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today…
Imagine there’s no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace…
Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world…
You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you’ll join us,
And the world will live as one.
-John Lennon
Could you imagine a better atheist anthem?
It looks like both the Christian God and Allah are bored:
769 Dead, 307 Hurt in Iraq Bridge Stampede (on a religious pilgrimage)
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/iraq
sword—
“Killing for God” by Eric Idle:
“Killing for God
Is thrilling for you.
Each drop of blood you spill
Is by the good Lord’s will.
If they don’t believe
Then why should you grieve?
Just take their breath away
And give them death today.
God wants those bastards dead
So shoot them through the head.
It’s atheist blood you shed
When you’re killing for God.”
Sorry, I couldn’t resist posting it,
You folks who post on this blog are great!!!…I enjoy reading all the post….I extend that compliment to even our christain freinds….afterall….who doesnt want piece on earth and goodwill towards all women and men….now back to pointing out my frustrations with the spirit world….or as Dbryant would say, why are you so negative
My heart goes out to all effected by the storm….saying that is like saying a prayer…doesnt do jack crap to help
The comparison that Chris Matthews made to Noah’s Arc….
If it were a true comparison, there would only have been one family of humans, and 2 of each animal! many of the people “kindly” evacd and left their dogs chained in the backyard!
Also, if they had heard the call, the people would have gotten in their personal arcs and gotten the hell outta Dodge!
you brought tears to my eyes sword_strike. lol. I’ve always thought that was a great atheist song. I remember my english teacher in high school played it for us and said it was a perfect example of what our lesson was going to be like. I don’t know what the hell she was talking about because it had nothing to do with anything we learned but hey.
Back with more hurricane stuff, I live in a small Oregon town, and all the stores and even the library and police station and high school have signs that say things like “god bless new orleans” and “pray for the survivors” aand stuff. I don’t think god wanted to bless new orleans…or maybe allah stole the remote control from god and changed the metaphorical channel. who knows?
Chris is a bit dense. He also said “I didn’t see this coming”. Refering to the catastrophe. Other people did see it coming and there was an immediate responce to start helping out. What do these talking heads do? Think up stupid comments?
Pay attention closely to how this goes and you can expect the same response in your own town in the event of some type of disaster. Everyone needs to start taking a little more personal responsibility for their own personal safety. Most of these people do not have water or food. Everyone should have at least some way of purifying water. This is going to go on for the next 6 months and if they are really luky New Orleans will be back in business in 1 year.
You can never be too prepared. Start today doing something in your own community. FEMA has specific guidlines and strategies that you can follow. They already invented the wheel and you can save a lot of time by following their guidelines.
Pray on your own time, We got work to do . JIM
PS all the comments on this thread are OK by me they are in fact what gives this blog its unique flavor.
Alright…the word has come down. A RR organisation has announced that New Orleans was destroyed because of a gay celebration scheduled to be held on Labor Day.
I may not have been clear: the celebration was to have be held in New Orleans.
Reluctantatheist & Dangerman: A suggestion would be for someone that is qualified to start up an “American Atheist Charity Organization” or something where we can donate to a cause such as to aid the people on the Gulf Coast. Have the packages clearly stamped with something like “American Atheist – Helping to make the world a better place to live” or something corny like that. I don?t? have the time or resources, but if the American Atheist website were to put up a link to Charity organization, I feel most of us would contribute. I lived on the Mississippi coast for 7 years and have many friends and relatives there. I have not been able to get in touch with any of them. I know one of them is gone, but no idea what is going on with the rest of them. My friends are resourceful and probably don?t need help, but many others there can use some help. Most are good people and are in dire straights.
DVanWechel: I agree, Atheists are not negative people but I sometimes feel that this is the only message getting out to the people. I saw a survey the other day where in the list of who would you vote for to be the president of the United States, of course it was a Christian at the top, followed by most major religions, including someone from Islam, and guess who was at the bottom, Atheists. I feel even though Madalyn Murray O’Hair was right in her positions, she did not have the charisma that to represent us. She was from my view point very crass. Ellen Johnson is a different story but Madalyn Murray O?Hair is what people seem to remember.
I also feel this is a good place to vent your frustrations. It would be nice to have a balance also.
Yellowhousedesign: Normally I am not so vocal either. I will check out the web site later. I have some Christian contacts that are sympathetic to our cause and believe in the separation of church and state. But there are many more that are not.
Reluctantatheist: I have read many of your posts and find we share many common feelings. I have a question for you. Your ID ?reluctantatheist? speaks of an untold story. How did you choose the name ?reluctantatheist?? If you don?t mind that is.
Rosemary
Those people are the most mentally ill on the flat planet. Right along with the zealous moslems who also blame it on god. The real problem is that some of their minions truly believe in that kind of shit. The hand of GOD?? gimmmmeee a break.
jimmerone
Not so much the HAND of god as it was a certain FINGER…
Yeah, he stuck it to those people. But he must really hate people who live in mobile homes. I reckon I’m next. That’s why I left the wheels on. LOL JIM
Jimmerone
As it has been proved that there is an inverse relationship between the number of pirates and global warming, I think the relationship between tornadoes/hurricanes and mobile homes has also been proved. God hates trailers.
Lyrics to the country western song I’ll never write, titled, Trailer Park Blues:
I live down by the railroad track
In a house with wheels …
billh: all good suggestions.
I’ll give the short version of my handle (if there is such a thing as a ‘short’ anything in middle-age).
Beg. of Jan., unemployed 4 5 mos., feeling a little in need of hope, a friend & I engaged in a series of theological discussion via phone. At that point, I had a good working knowledge of the HB (being a voracious reader, I rather enjoyed the poetry of the KJV), but a lukewarm belief in it. Gave it some credence. Prior to that, I’d believed that the US was based on Biblical premises, 1 day, decided 2 test that. WRONG! 2-3-4 yrs later, my friend (Born-again, some 20 yrs. now), because of our phone talks, sent me McDowell’s ETDAV + a KJV. If he’d only sent the KJV, I might not be telling U this. Caught something in JM’s book, investigated, found it full of doggie doo. Began researching. Became an atheist B4 I read Paine’s Age of Reason (w/a little help from Voltaire). Said friend has recently said he regretted it, as I am now a complete non-theist. We still R friends, still debate, but now I know more about the bible than he does! (Who said irony was dead?)
There will be a longer version, more fleshed out, on my website coming soon (shameless plug! Sorry, David!)
karen -
“If your roof is in the middle of UR lawn…U might be a redneck.”
-Jeff Foxworthy
I apologize 4 that last post. Bad taste. Sorry.
reluctantatheist: Thought it was something like that. Glad you are still friends. Similar story here.
Here is another suggestion. A blog for Aetheist community activities. Get togethers, camping trips, trips to the beach, you get the idea. Gotta run.
Karen,
You crake me up
“Not so much the HAND of god as it was a certain FINGER”
please forgive, i mean excuse, my spelling….its crack me up
The kooks have come out en mass. Germany offers to help and then one of their gov’t oficials says Katrina is Bush”s fault because of global warming.???
The real idea is that no one or thing caused this, it just happened . It is a fact of NATURE. It happens on a regular basis and we as a society have been preparing for it as well as we could. I personally believe that the religions have had a negative influence on preparations. The levee system itself is suspect and seemingly could have been built better. Built sufficiently that “all we can do now is pray”. Well they could have been built to withstand a direct hit. Failure is both a symptom of neglect for the local citizenry and a lack of regard for good engineering practices. The most common failures are the levee systems. I wonder if this isn’t the type o disastrous outcome that we can expect from children being taught ID instead of or in addition to evolution?
Why is it considered miraculous when One child survives and the rest of the family is washed away?
JIM
Karen NAtasha How true.
I think this whole blog is confusing. I found it by searching for stuff about the hurricaine and saw the name NoGodBlog.com, sounded interesting. I figured it’s an atheist safe haven from god related discussions, but it seems 95% of your comments are about God, people’s perceptions of God, or ironies you see from the simple belief in God.
It’s called NoGodBlog.com. Instead of talking only about God. Why not have No God in the Blog?
Well, confused, I can see UR reasoning. Am unsure, however, if U were seeking non-Xtian news sources? If I may speak up on this, some of us were Christians (Xtians, xians), & thusly were impacted in no little way by the dominance of said religion in our culture (mostly negative). In some ways, since we are viewed as pariahs by a large % of the US, some of us (& I am speaking 4 myself) come here to discuss experiences, compare stories, flesh out our ideas, etc. If we were accepted & tolerated by the majority of Americans, there’d be little need 4 us to come here. The prevalent Culture Wars that R going on impact us in no little way, from the schools to the government. If everything was gravy 4 atheists, then U’d see very little activity on these blogs. We’re nervous, you see, & 4 good reason.
Hope that clarifies something 4 U.
They’ve announced that they have completed the mission of getting everyone out who was alive and willing to get out, and now they’re going to start with the recovery of bodies.
I wouldn’t want to have that job. Found out yesterday that our town police chief has been called to go down to NO to help with this. I don’t know if you have to have some kind of special training. He was also called to do the same thing in Thailand. What gruesome duty. The ironic thing is, he’ll be staying at a funeral home while he’s down there.
So he’ll be recovering the dead by day and sleeping with them at night.
There must be some kind of psychological training you go through for this kind of work.
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