Comments on: What’s your favorite passage? http://atheists.org/blog/2005/07/09/what_s_your_favorite_passage A Blog of Atheist Thought Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:57:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dsilverman http://atheists.org/blog/2005/07/09/what_s_your_favorite_passage/comment-page-1#comment-856 dsilverman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-856 In Lev 18:22, God tells moses "Thou shalt not lie with man as with a woman. It is an abomination." This is used as a singular proof that God frowns on homosexuality, and is the bedrock of the anti-gay movement.<br /> <br /> THEN IN THE SAME CONTEXT AND IN THE SAME CONVERSTION, Lev 24:16 reads (and the lord spake unto Moses, saying...) "And he that Blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall surely stone him". <br /> <br /> That silly God. Almost makes him sound like he is actually endorsing mass murder based solely on theology. Nah... In Lev 18:22, God tells moses “Thou shalt not lie with man as with a woman. It is an abomination.” This is used as a singular proof that God frowns on homosexuality, and is the bedrock of the anti-gay movement.

THEN IN THE SAME CONTEXT AND IN THE SAME CONVERSTION, Lev 24:16 reads (and the lord spake unto Moses, saying…) “And he that Blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall surely stone him”.

That silly God. Almost makes him sound like he is actually endorsing mass murder based solely on theology. Nah…

]]> By: Ian Thomas http://atheists.org/blog/2005/07/09/what_s_your_favorite_passage/comment-page-1#comment-857 Ian Thomas Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-857 There are hundreds if not thousands of contradictions and hateful comments in the Bible. It could be discussed for years, decades or millenia-as it has. We will all be preaching to the choir if we keep pressing on these issues to ourselves. <br /> <br /> What we need to do is discuss how we can make the world a better place. Many of us have spoken out about the Separation of Church and State; this is wonderful. <br /> <br /> I propose that we take further action; that we, as an atheist community, should endorse and partake in community service both in the US and abroad. <br /> <br /> We reject the Faith Based Initiative but we don't often provide for alternative spending that will aid the homeless and otherwise needy.<br /> <br /> The atheist community should take responsibility and action for fighting ever expanding American and global problems. We should speak out with a communal voice to prevent the spread of AIDS and malaria in Africa, support sustaniable development, work for national health care and an increase to the minimum wage. <br /> <br /> We need to take care of each other like the Palmers who have been ostracized from Mississippi for their speaking out against institutionalized prayer in their public school. <br /> <br /> We need to build a stronger community through networking and more frequent events so that we build stronger personal relationships. <br /> <br /> We should be talking about and working to solve these bigger issues rather than preaching to the choir about Bible verses even though it is fun and sad every now and then. <br /> <br /> I am a Humanist and hope that all rational thinking atheists will eventually come to this same conclusion. There are hundreds if not thousands of contradictions and hateful comments in the Bible. It could be discussed for years, decades or millenia-as it has. We will all be preaching to the choir if we keep pressing on these issues to ourselves.

What we need to do is discuss how we can make the world a better place. Many of us have spoken out about the Separation of Church and State; this is wonderful.

I propose that we take further action; that we, as an atheist community, should endorse and partake in community service both in the US and abroad.

We reject the Faith Based Initiative but we don’t often provide for alternative spending that will aid the homeless and otherwise needy.

The atheist community should take responsibility and action for fighting ever expanding American and global problems. We should speak out with a communal voice to prevent the spread of AIDS and malaria in Africa, support sustaniable development, work for national health care and an increase to the minimum wage.

We need to take care of each other like the Palmers who have been ostracized from Mississippi for their speaking out against institutionalized prayer in their public school.

We need to build a stronger community through networking and more frequent events so that we build stronger personal relationships.

We should be talking about and working to solve these bigger issues rather than preaching to the choir about Bible verses even though it is fun and sad every now and then.

I am a Humanist and hope that all rational thinking atheists will eventually come to this same conclusion.

]]> By: maddogstu http://atheists.org/blog/2005/07/09/what_s_your_favorite_passage/comment-page-1#comment-859 maddogstu Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-859 David - being a Christian once, it's pretty easy to just throw out the Old Testament and lash onto the New Testament. No more 10 commandments or any other funny rules because it's trumped by treat/love others as how you would like to be treated. I could be wrong, but I'd be a little surprised if the New Test advocates violence.(carried out by man against another).<br /> <br /> What they hear....<br /> John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.<br /> <br /> What they don't hear....<br /> Matthew 18:9<br /> And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. (Download any porn recently?)<br /> <br /> Revelation 3:16<br /> So, because you are lukewarm?neither hot nor cold?I am about to spit you out of my mouth.<br /> David – being a Christian once, it’s pretty easy to just throw out the Old Testament and lash onto the New Testament. No more 10 commandments or any other funny rules because it’s trumped by treat/love others as how you would like to be treated. I could be wrong, but I’d be a little surprised if the New Test advocates violence.(carried out by man against another).

What they hear….
John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

What they don’t hear….
Matthew 18:9
And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. (Download any porn recently?)

Revelation 3:16
So, because you are lukewarm?neither hot nor cold?I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

]]> By: sethsim http://atheists.org/blog/2005/07/09/what_s_your_favorite_passage/comment-page-1#comment-861 sethsim Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-861 I must say that I agree with Ian Thomas. It's okay to have these threads where we say what's wrong with religion, but we could focus on taking action in areas that aren't directly concerned with atheism; since we all know that humanity has to fend for itself, we should try to commence with the fending.<br /> <br /> And I'd contribute to the quotes, but regrettably I have not yet read the Bible. If you like, I could quote from the bible I wrote...but it's getting late. I must say that I agree with Ian Thomas. It’s okay to have these threads where we say what’s wrong with religion, but we could focus on taking action in areas that aren’t directly concerned with atheism; since we all know that humanity has to fend for itself, we should try to commence with the fending.

And I’d contribute to the quotes, but regrettably I have not yet read the Bible. If you like, I could quote from the bible I wrote…but it’s getting late.

]]> By: maddogstu http://atheists.org/blog/2005/07/09/what_s_your_favorite_passage/comment-page-1#comment-862 maddogstu Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-862 I need the ammo. Inevitably - I'm surrounded and outnumbered and arguing with "Western, Materialistic, Judgmental, Better than Thou Christians". I could keep my mouth shut - but I fear this will only encourage them - and our President.... I really don't even care if they convert to Atheism, but they should drop the non-Christian parts i.e. materialism, judging, bombing, etc.<br /> <br /> Finally.. this is fun. Any recommendations on other posting places to practice my arguments? Christian/Religious right site would do the trick...Know your enemy. I need the ammo. Inevitably – I’m surrounded and outnumbered and arguing with “Western, Materialistic, Judgmental, Better than Thou Christians”. I could keep my mouth shut – but I fear this will only encourage them – and our President…. I really don’t even care if they convert to Atheism, but they should drop the non-Christian parts i.e. materialism, judging, bombing, etc.

Finally.. this is fun. Any recommendations on other posting places to practice my arguments? Christian/Religious right site would do the trick…Know your enemy.

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